Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by zozell:
I think the main difference between those two plays is this:
On Gores play, his feet work planted on the ground when he made the catch. Once he caught it and he had posession, it was a TD.
On Johnsons play he caught it in the air, and therefore needed to maintain possession throughout the entire process of catching the ball in order for it to be a catch.
That's what someone explained to me at least. I think it's bs though. Detroit clearly should have been 1-0 today.
I agree with this explanation.
The rule that comes into play is only invoked when you go to the ground. Gore never went down. He had the TD as soon as he had possession
Here is the infamous rule:
This is the NFL's reason it wasn't a catch:
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.
I posted this on another tread. It belongs here. It aslo gives you the correct result as most people feel in their gut:
"OK. I'll bite.
I still don't understand why it wasn't a catch. And a TD.
Read the rule again: "he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground". You do know that both of the receiver's feet his butt plus both knees hit the turf while he had grasp of the ball in his extended hand? Player is down when a knee hits the ground. Look at the replay. BOTH knees AND butt hit the ground; CJ had possession AND control at that time. It's only after that when he brought his hand down and slammed the ground that the ball popped out. Too late. He HAD CONTROL AFTER HE TOUCHED THE GROUND. The officials got the call wrong and everybody just went along with it.
Now you could say that he was bobbling the ball as he was coming down and did not have control. But I don't think that that was the case, nor was that the ruling: He caught the ball with both hands, both feet down, switch the ball to one hand with a firm grasp, knees hit the ground, ball in control, play over. THEN the hand with ball firmly in grasp hits the ground and ground causes a fumble.
It was legitimately a TD UNDER THE RULES as written. The Lions got robbed."