Originally posted by nicedraw94080:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by nicedraw94080:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by nicedraw94080:
Please name 1 DB that has led its team or franchise to a Super Bowl ?
None.case closed.
What MLB led his team to a SB ? Ray Lewis ? Let's not overlook that the 2000 Ravens had a very strong running game and a load of talent on defense. Lewis might have been the heart and soul but he did not single handedly lead that team to winning the Super Bowl.
For starters, these guys led their teams to multiple Super Bowls as leaders of their teams..
Lawrence Taylor
Jack Lambert
Ray Nitschke
Mike Singletary
Roy Winston
Ted Hendricks
Then of course u well know these LB's that got their teams in the playoffs or a Super Bowl being a LB...
Dick Butkus
Junior Seau
Derrick Thomas
Brian Urlacher
Willy Lanier
Child please!
OK Since you are talking about leaders who led their teams to SB or to the playoffs, I'll list off some corner's who have done the same
Asante Samuel with the Pats
Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown with the Eagles
Ronde Barber with the Bucs
Rod Woodson with the Steelers
Mel Blount with the Steelers
Deion Sanders with the 49ers
Ronnie Lott with the 49ers
Lester Hayes with the Raiders
Dick Lane with the Lions
Champ Bailey with the Broncos
Not one guy you listed and we can include Ray Lewis is single handedly responsible for getting his team to the playoffs or winning them a Super Bowl. Some mentioned like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary played on 2 of the greatest defensive teams ever.
Now kiss da baby!
Let me guess, you played back up DB in high school football right?
Here's the thing, great football players don't look to great DB's to lead them to greatness. It's just not in a DB's DNA. At a young age linebackers are taught to call signals, break huddles and be team(bully's)leaders.From pop-warner to the pros, defense is built around your toughest/athletic players.
The lists we compared is an EPIC landslide. Notice i didn't even mention Ray-Ray on mine ? The guys you listed were great super bowl winners, but obviously not the centerpiece of any title or dynasty.
The guys I listed,IMO, were either the greatest of an era; hall of fame members; or team leaders that defenses were built around.
Like a broken record, I'd rather have a P. Willis than a D. Revis.
I listed a bunch of of Hall of Famers, guys who were considered some of the greatest of their era and some of those guys will be HoF's some day. I could list more if you'd like...guys like Dick Lebeau, Darrell Green, Jimmy Johnson, Emmitt Thomas. The list goes on and on....
And no I never played DB. And yes a DB can be a leader, a team leader. If you try to argue that you don't believe it, you are simply being close minded for the sake of the argument here.
Patrick Willis doesn't wear the green dot, a DB on our team does. And DB's can lead teams to greatness, whether it's by being vocal or letting his game do the talking, his teammates can feed off of it. Just like when Ray Lewis does either or, his team feeds off of it. Willis lets his play talk for him not his mouth. You think Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey or Night Train Lane's teammates did not look to them as leaders ? That they didn't feed off the great plays they'd make on the field ? That those guys never broke a huddle or picked up on something the offense was doing and called it out to there teammates...You think those guys never addressed the locker room, or their teammates on the sideline and told them to step it up ? You think they were players who couldn't lead them to winning football games ?
Look at the results of asking the same question on an unbiased forum....almost 75% have picked Revis. Looks like given a choice football fans are choosing a shut down corner over an all pro linebacker. Can you explain that ?
[ Edited by KRS-1 on Aug 22, 2010 at 12:44:47 ]