Originally posted by Hawksfan81:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Hawksfan81:
Curry annoyed the hell out of me. He has to be smarter on the field.
Hill is not eligable to play until the second week of the season and his knee is projected to only keep him off the field for a couple of weeks.
Tatupu is not banged up. He had a sore hammy. Its just precautionary benching so Lofa doesn't turn a sore hamstring into a torn hamstring. He will be fine by the regular season.
Something to consider with these guys is how terrible the hawks d-line has been the last few years. Their lack of excution has cause to LBs to step up and be placed in situations that were not condusive to good their health. This year our starting d-line will have a combined weight of over 1000lbs. That is a lot of beef for on o-line block. This year our LBs should have more freedom to run around and make plays. Instead of focusing on making up for the lack of ability or our D-line.
Yeah, well, Hill being out to injury is nothing new. Tatupu being out to injury is nothing new either. You say they will be both be back and be fine and that may be true. However...if past is prologue (and it has been for a few years now with these guys) chances are that Hill and Tatupu are going to be repeat.
I understand about what you are saying about your d-line. However...the issue is going to be the pass rush. Watching Clemons last night, it looks like you may get some out of him...but...getting some pass rush out of him is not the question that needs to be answered. The question that needs to be answered is how well Clemons is going to hold up against the run? YOu guys don't have the personell to run a 34...you don't have the right mix of LB's for a 34 and you don't have the meat up front for a good 43 either. You are a 43 team missing the 4th down lineman. Caroll is trying to reconcile it by running a hybrid....standing an undersized 43 lineman up to rush the passer. He is trying to get a pass rush from somewhere because he can't get it fromm where it is supposed to come from in a 43, the 4 downlinemen.
This is what is going to happen, if it was me coaching and playing the Hawks....IMHO....teams are going to run right at Clemons. They are going to try and bull him and beat him up with the run. The chances are very good they will be successful. The chances are also high that he ends up injured because of it, but then again he may not. So, although you guys have 1000 LBS up front, if teams can run at Clemons succesfully, that 1000 lbs isn't going to keep your LB's free..it's very possible they will be spending a lot of time backing up Clemons and fighting through the pile surrounding him while that 1000 pounds you are talking about is tied up trying to hold a point of attack.
Clemmons is not the projected starter. Jackson it. They just did not play him last night.
Stand Jackson up, same thing holds true, and Jackson may even be worse. The point is you guys don't have the personnel to rush the passer from the Leo or Elephant whithout calling into question that linemans ability defend the run. Jackson may fare better thatn Clemons at defending the run from that spot, but he is probably going to be non-existent in the pass rush, which is the whole point Carrol is trying to achieve by standing up one of those 43 lineman. So the other option (short of one your LB's like Curry all of a sudden turning into a pass rush beast) is going to be to go back to the straight up 43...in which case, the question still remains where is the pass rush going to come from while at the same time being able to remain stout against the run?
Last year, teams ran it down Cole's throat. Hopefully, for you guys, Vickerson gives you an upgrade there. That will help agaisnt the run, but it's not going to do anything for the pass.
I watched Bryant last night at end...there does look to be hope there and there also doesn't. That's a weak spot too. He gets turned and sometimes he doesn't. Bryant and Cole are not starter's...that's why Gore run right down the middle on them last year, and we sucked at run blocking. There's just a lot of unanswered questions about that dline and, I remember hearing the same thing out of Seattle about adding beef to the dline last year...that is what Cole and Redding where supposed to do, and in hindsight it didn't do much. It's not the beef that matter's, it's gotta be the right kind of beef. Right now, in a perfect world with genies in bottles, a bet Caroll would s**t can every starter on that dline and move them to the depth chart except Mebane.
[ Edited by Blitz on Aug 15, 2010 at 14:49:40 ]