Originally posted by WillistheWall:Originally posted by HessianDud:Originally posted by WillistheWall:Originally posted by HessianDud:Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Why does everyone have to be so PC all the time? I have nothing to hide, i have no prejudice or hate towards gays in any way, but i can say that they absolutely should not come out during their careers. No sh*t the NFL culture has "no tolerance" for that. Do you know how awkward every locker room would be with him? Im surprised Tony Romo has made it this far, when he retires and comes out of the closet, no one should be surprised.
it doesn't have anything to do with "being PC", it has to do with being able to do your job and live your life. Those things shouldn't be mutually exclusive.
Yes, the NFL culture isn't tolerant, and it will talk an extremely brave person to be openly gay and an active player in the NFL, but that doesn't mean that its "okay."
You're wrong. This would be like them checking out teammates and stuff in the showers and that's bad. Or holding gay pep rallies or whatever and calling a bunch of attention to themselves. Half the reason TO doesn't have a job now is because people look at him as a distraction, not that he's gay or he's a criminal but he calls a lot of attention to himself. This guy calling a lot of attention to himself would undermine the team, the teammates would always be asked about it, it'd be extremely awkward in the showers, etc. Every other player is pretty much not supposed to call a lot of attention to themselves for any reason except their play on the field. Look at Romo when he dated Jessica Simpson. He got somewhat ripped for it and it was a bit of a distraction for them and then they were always asking his teammates about who he was dating and his relationship and fans showing up to games with masks of her face and stuff. Nobody is saying a gay player couldn't nail other dudes off the field and stuff and have parties with people they want to party with, they're just saying that pretty much just like any other player they need to STFU and play while they're on the field and keep a low profile by not causing any distractions. What they do off the field is their own business and when their career is over its their own business. But not when they're an active member of the team.
look at Jackie Robinson. I can't believe that guy called all that attention to himself!
lol How can you even compare the 2? Jackie was black and people cant help their skin color, they are what they are and thats fine. He was a really talented athlete. Im sure some gay people are talented athletes too but they can hide that their gay from the general public or not call attention to it, and its totally different because theres nothing perveted/sick about Jackie/any black player walking around the club house or shower or whatever while there's definitely something sick about an openly gay guy walking around in a shower of straight ones.
I mean damn, its like if you were in a lockerroom full of hot chicks who are in great shape or whatever, like a supermodel shower or whatever, most guys would be going crazy. Now that's like how a gay guy would be like in a lockerroom of other guys especially athletes who are mostly in really good shape probably.
exactly. Not sure how you don't see the connection.
anyway, its only sick/perverted if you buy the assumption that gay people are sick/perverted because of who they are, or that they are some kind of uncontrollable sex animals.
and your analogy about the hot chicks is false. If its just me and a room of random hot chicks, of course i'd be checking them out. But obviously teammates are not random to one another, they're like brethren, yes? So to make your analogy more apt, if I were in a room full of naked chicks who happened to be my friends, sisters, or co-workers, then, no, I wouldn't be checking them out because it would violate the nature of our relationship, or it would make the workplace an uncomfortable environment, etc.
Anyway, do you think a closeted gay guy is checking out his teammates less than an openly gay guy?