Steelers open to idea of trading Roethlisberger

For those of you that think he is overrated as a player...

EXHIBIT A
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2004)
2007 Probowl Selection
2-time Super Bowl Champion
Career average QB rating (6 seasons): 91.7
Victories which Roethlisberger rallied the team from a fourth-quarter/OT deficit or tie: 17
Led his team to the AFC Championship game 3 times in 6 years.
Career Playoff Record: 8-2

...and he's only 28 years old!

Now regarding questions surrounding his character or his ability to make sound personal decisions, let's look at the situations he's been in...

EXHIBIT B
A) In 2006 he got in a motorcycle accident in which he wasn't wearing a helmet. He was later cited for failure to wear a helmet and failure to operate in his license class (he had an expired permit at the time). He wasn't drunk, he wasn't speeding, he wasn't driving recklessly - in fact the accident was caused by a motorist that cut in front of him so he wasn't even at-fault.
Aside from the questionable decision to not wear a helmet or renew his license in a timely manner, this sounds like a pretty ordinary, every-day occurance.

B) In 2009 an executive casino host at Harrah's Lake Tahoe accused Roethlisberger of assaulting her and forcing her to have sex with him. She also filed charges against the hotel for trying to cover up the incident.
After the investigation was completed, here are the facts that came out of it:
1. In a sworn statement a co-worker stated that the accuser bragged about having consensual sex with Roethlisberger.
2. Hospital records showed no physical signs of struggle or forced intercourse.
So basically there is no evidence to show that he did anything wrong at all.

Now that being said, this most recent accusation is a bit sketchier since there is some physical evidence involved but not enough to show that an assault had occured. Based on numerous descriptions of the events that occurred at the night club in March, it seems pretty clear that something shady happened but it's all speculative at this point.

Look the bottom line is that this guy has personal problems that the league needs to intervene and help him deal with - through some form of punishment but also through some form of direct education.
Does this mean he sucks as a player? Absolutely not - he's a phenomenal QB with credentials that few active QBs can even come close to.
If we decided to pursue him it would, no doubt, be a significant upgrade at a position that's a huge question mark for us now. If the organization felt like they had a handle on his personal situation and took the right steps to mitigate any possible backlash that might come from it, then my answer is hell yes. Let's get this guy.

Originally posted by scopur49er:
For those of you that think he is overrated as a player I give you...

EXHIBIT A
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2004)
2007 Probowl Selection
2-time Super Bowl Champion
Career average QB rating (6 seasons): 91.7
Victories which Roethlisberger rallied the team from a fourth-quarter/OT deficit or tie: 17
Led his team to the AFC Championship game 3 times in 6 years.
Career Playoff Record: 8-2

...and he's only 28 years old!

Now regarding questions surrounding his character or his ability to make sound personal decisions, let's look at the situations he's been in...

EXHIBIT B
A) In 2006 he got in a motorcycle accident in which he wasn't wearing a helmet. He was later cited for failure to wear a helmet and failure to operate in his license class (he had an expired permit at the time). He wasn't drunk, he wasn't speeding, he wasn't driving recklessly - in fact the accident was caused by a motorist that cut in front of him so he wasn't even at-fault.
Aside from the questionable decision to not wear a helmet or renew his license in a timely manner, this sounds like a pretty ordinary, every-day occurance.

B) In 2009 an executive casino host at Harrah's Lake Tahoe accused Roethlisberger of assaulting her and forcing her to have sex with him. She also filed charges against the hotel for trying to cover up the incident.
After the investigation was completed, here are the facts that came out of it:
1. In a sworn statement a co-worker stated that the accuser bragged about having consensual sex with Roethlisberger.
2. Hospital records showed no physical signs of struggle or forced intercourse.
So basically there is no evidence to show that he did anything wrong at all.

Now that being said, this most recent accusation is a bit sketchier since there is some physical evidence involved but not enough to show that an assault had occured. Based on numerous descriptions of the events that occurred at the night club in March, it seems pretty clear that something shady happened but it's all speculative at this point.

Look the bottom line is that this guy has personal problems that the league needs to intervene and help him deal with - through some form of punishment but also through some form of direct education.
Does this mean he sucks as a player? Absolutely not - he's a phenomenal QB with credentials that few active QBs can even come close to.
If we decided to pursue him it would, no doubt, be a major upgrade at a position that's a huge question mark for us now. If the organization felt like they had a handle on his personal situation and took the right steps to mitigate any possible backlash that might come from it, then my answer is hell yes. Let's get this guy.

A friend of the woman who accused Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault told authorities that Roethlisberger's bodyguard "dragged" the woman into a bathroom where the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback and woman had sexual relations.

In documents released Wednesday, Nicole Biancofiore told investigators from the Georgia Bureau of Investigations that her friend, a student at Georgia College & State University, "was dragged by a bodyguard to the back room in Capital [City, a local nightclub]. She was extremely intoxicated and not aware of what was happening."

"He had sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told my friends they couldn't pass them to get to me," the accuser wrote in her statement, which was reported in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.


A third friend, Ann Marie Lubatti, told police, that she "approached the other security guard and told him that she [the accuser] was in no shape to be back there with Ben Roethlisberger. He couldn't look me in the eye, and told me he didn't know what was going on. My friend went to open the door, and it was locked."
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For those of you that think he is overrated as a player...

EXHIBIT A
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2004)
2007 Probowl Selection
2-time Super Bowl Champion
Career average QB rating (6 seasons): 91.7
Victories which Roethlisberger rallied the team from a fourth-quarter/OT deficit or tie: 17
Led his team to the AFC Championship game 3 times in 6 years.
Career Playoff Record: 8-2

...and he's only 28 years old!

Now regarding questions surrounding his character or his ability to make sound personal decisions, let's look at the situations he's been in...

EXHIBIT B
A) In 2006 he got in a motorcycle accident in which he wasn't wearing a helmet. He was later cited for failure to wear a helmet and failure to operate in his license class (he had an expired permit at the time). He wasn't drunk, he wasn't speeding, he wasn't driving recklessly - in fact the accident was caused by a motorist that cut in front of him so he wasn't even at-fault.
Aside from the questionable decision to not wear a helmet or renew his license in a timely manner, this sounds like a pretty ordinary, every-day occurance.

B) In 2009 an executive casino host at Harrah's Lake Tahoe accused Roethlisberger of assaulting her and forcing her to have sex with him. She also filed charges against the hotel for trying to cover up the incident.
After the investigation was completed, here are the facts that came out of it:
1. In a sworn statement a co-worker stated that the accuser bragged about having consensual sex with Roethlisberger.
2. Hospital records showed no physical signs of struggle or forced intercourse.
So basically there is no evidence to show that he did anything wrong at all.

Now that being said, this most recent accusation is a bit sketchier since there is some physical evidence involved but not enough to show that an assault had occured. Based on numerous descriptions of the events that occurred at the night club in March, it seems pretty clear that something shady happened but it's all speculative at this point.

Look the bottom line is that this guy has personal problems that the league needs to intervene and help him deal with - through some form of punishment but also through some form of direct education.
Does this mean he sucks as a player? Absolutely not - he's a phenomenal QB with credentials that few active QBs can even come close to.
If we decided to pursue him it would, no doubt, be a major upgrade at a position that's a huge question mark for us now. If the organization felt like they had a handle on his personal situation and took the right steps to mitigate any possible backlash that might come from it, then my answer is hell yes. Let's get this guy.

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I think this is more to scare raper and let him know if he doesnt clean up his act he is gonzo.

They wont trade him and if they do I wouldnt want the 9ers to get him

No kidding, if Sing drops his pants at halftime Big Ben would be all over that ass in a hot minute!

LMAO!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by valrod33:
is anybody else having trouble with this thread, it keeps saying it has new post in it but every time i click on it there isnt a new post

try it again

SUCCESS

I made a post that never showed up.

I was basically saying that Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL

Originally posted by danimal:
I made a post that never showed up.

I was basically saying that Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL

This is a very strange thread. Took ages for my last post to turn up

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by danimal:
I made a post that never showed up.

I was basically saying that Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL

This is a very strange thread. Took ages for my last post to turn up

my theory. Some mods maybe merged this into another Roeth thread, but then decided to put it back or something. Now it is fubar

Originally posted by danimal:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by danimal:
I made a post that never showed up.

I was basically saying that Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL

This is a very strange thread. Took ages for my last post to turn up

my theory. Some mods maybe merged this into another Roeth thread, but then decided to put it back or something. Now it is fubar

You may well be right. My theory - that it is a haunted thread - is far more exciting but less probable!

Big Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL? Really?

then wtf is Alex Smith

I don't mean to make fun of Smith but damn

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Rather have Mcnabb than Roethlsberger

Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Rather have Mcnabb than Roethlsberger

Rather have either than Smith.

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure that they're serious about trading him. I think that it's all a scare tactic as Valrod said.

I would be open to trading for him. Now while that's my opinion, I don't think that Singletary would share that same view.

-9fA

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by danimal:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by danimal:
I made a post that never showed up.

I was basically saying that Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL

This is a very strange thread. Took ages for my last post to turn up

my theory. Some mods maybe merged this into another Roeth thread, but then decided to put it back or something. Now it is fubar

You may well be right. My theory - that it is a haunted thread - is far more exciting but less probable!

nope, we were having some technical difficulties earlier. Val caused it.

Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Big Ben is the most overrated QB in the NFL? Really?

then wtf is Alex Smith

I don't mean to make fun of Smith but damn

You know the definition of overrated don't ya. Anybody can be overrated. A 3rd string safety could be overrated

Now if you are asking me who is the most overrated QB in the NFL based on a poll of webzoners...I would definitely say Alex Smith.

But I was speaking nationally. Many fans think Big Ben is better than he actually is...IMHO.....thus I think he is the most overrated QB in the NFL. I also think Favre is really overrated these days.