It seems as though there is a stigma associated with being franchised. However, it generally guarantees a player a very good guaranteed salary that may provide better compensation than a long term deal.
Franklin, for example, is getting $7M guaranteed for ONE year's work. By contrast, Hampton just signed a 3 year, $21M deal with $11M guaranteed. Wouldn't 3 successive $7M deals be better than a 3 year deal that maxes out at $21M?
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Why do players dislike being franchised?
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM
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Feb 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM
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if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
[ Edited by valrod33 on Feb 25, 2010 at 11:30:46 ]
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
[ Edited by valrod33 on Feb 25, 2010 at 11:30:46 ]
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
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if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up wiht more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
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if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
Yeah, that's their excuse. I agree that the one year deal is nice, but I can understand certain player's POV. Some guys only get once shot at a nice contract and the risk of injury is very real.
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
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if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up wiht more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
Spoken like a true rich white guy.
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up wiht more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
Spoken like a true rich white guy.
You gon let him talk to you that way C ?
Feb 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up with more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
Spoken like a true rich white guy.
You gon let him talk to you that way C ?
Feb 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up with more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
Spoken like a true rich white guy.
You gon let him talk to you that way C ?
Feb 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM
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Because players like the security of a long-term contract, plus the fact that longer contracts almost always equal more guaranteed money.
[ Edited by PA9erFaithful on Feb 25, 2010 at 12:28:02 ]
[ Edited by PA9erFaithful on Feb 25, 2010 at 12:28:02 ]
Feb 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by 49erWill:
perhaps its because they cant become a free agent and go play where they want
That makes sense to me, at least in some circumstances.
Feb 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Because players like the security of a long-term contract, plus the fact that longer contracts almost always equal more guaranteed money.
I think the players' logic in that situation can be flawed. Again:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up with more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
[ Edited by NineFourNiner on Feb 25, 2010 at 12:45:52 ]
Feb 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM
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Cause they dont have continuity with where they will be for years following the tag
Feb 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Because players like the security of a long-term contract, plus the fact that longer contracts almost always equal more guaranteed money.
I think the players' logic in that situation can be flawed. Again:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up with more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
A long term contract is not totally about financial security. I would suspect that many players like to know that they're going to be in the same city for a long time, so that they and their families can settle down and integrate into the community.
Feb 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM
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b***hassness.
Feb 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM
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Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:
Because players like the security of a long-term contract, plus the fact that longer contracts almost always equal more guaranteed money.
I think the players' logic in that situation can be flawed. Again:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by valrod33:
Financial Security
if they get hurt during a year they are franchised they are afraid they wont get that big payday
I don't buy it.
If Hampton and Franklin each get injured this year and cut, they make $11 and $7M respectively. OTOH, if they get injured NEXT year and cut, Franklin likely ends up with more money - $14M v. $11M or so.
A long term contract is not totally about financial security. I would suspect that many players like to know that they're going to be in the same city for a long time, so that they and their families can settle down and integrate into the community.
That makes sense to me. But at the same time, once that tag is slapped on there is a year to work on the new long term deal while the player is making top 5 money. In other words, the player's family gets to stay where they already were (continuity), make more money and still have another year to work out a long term solution.