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Cards player calls Leinart a B%*&$#

it was probably dockett talking trash
It was Kurt Warner
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Shifter:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
You gotta wonder who that was...a starter or some unknown bench warmer. Either way, doesn't matter because they're correct. I look forward to destroying the Cards w/ him as their starting QB. Leinart couldn't even throw a TD pass last season, but he's good at throwing several INTs. When you can't put up decent #s w/ Boldin/Fitz are your primary WRs, you know you suck!

Leinart did not play much last year but in the few chances he got he did a decent job of making his reads and finding his open targets. He never really has had much of a chance to play since his rookie year so it's kind of unfair to say he sucks because he isn't putting up decent numbers. It's hard to improve when you are the backup QB and are not getting significant game reps. Truth of the matter is his completion % was good and was on par with Alex Smith who certainly hasn't fared any better as a pro to date.

Leinart's future in the NFL as a starter will ride heavily on this season and I'd bet Whiz starts to run the ball a lot more to take pressure off of Leinart. The offense will also be a little different seeing as Leinart's skill set is different than Warner's.

I don't think ML will be great but he can be serviceable starter in the meantime for them and I would not count them out of the NFC West title race. It is still there division to lose.
i WOULD swap Leinart for Smith in a heartbeat


18 TDs 12 INTs vs 0 TDs and like 3 INTs despite throwing to Fitz, Breaston, and boldin... I feel freaking sorry for you man.

Comparing stats from a guy who started multiple games vs a guy who started 2 games and played in a 3rd due to injury is really proving nothing.

Why don't we compare rookie stats then...

Alex Smith

G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 9   7  84 165 50.9 875 5.3 1 11 
Matt Leinart
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 12   11  214 377 56.8 2,547 6.8 11 12


I wouldn't make the trade straight up, or even trade for ML altogether, but your comparison is beyond ridiculous.

Umm...I could say your post is ridiculous, too, when you bring up rookie seasons in '05/'06. At least I can agree that I wouldn't trade for him at all. Why don't we just post up total career #s, I think that's a more fair comparison.

Leinart
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
340 595 57.1 3,893 6.5 14 20 29 212 70.8 46 90 2.0 2 11 3

Smith
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
660 1,172 56.3 7,029 6.0 37 43 103 642 69.2 111 390 3.5 2 30 14

I reiterate, I'm not much of a Smith supporter, but even I would rather have him leading our team than Leinart. BTW, neither are impressive overall, but Smith is finally showing progress while Leinart isn't. In any case, both will have a full season to prove their worth and Smith is my favorite to continue showing progression and who is more talented of the two.

The point was to show the comparison on their careers is far from an easy one and one stats won't prove to have an answer for.

Leinart didn't play half of a season last year so it's hard to show any progress when you have but a few snaps to work off of and was pretty good vs Tennessee but wasn't very good vs GB at season's end, then again his team was already guaranteed a playoff spot, could not secure the #2 seed and so they played safe.
Originally posted by valrod33:
It was Kurt Warner

Was the full quote "I'd like to thank God for making Matt such a p*ssy"?
truth hurts
Originally posted by Shifter:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by lazy:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:

What?

oh god, LOL does not have the gravity to express what an awesome comeback this is. Been keeping an eye on you for a while Huck, and this might be your best moment.

*CREEPY STALKER ALERT!*
*CREEPY STALKER ALERT!*
*CREEPY STALKER ALERT!*
*CREEPY STALKER ALERT!*
*CREEPY STALKER ALERT!*
I can see Deuce Lutui, Neil Rackers, Antrel Rolle, or Ken Whisenhunt calling him out
He stinks. And the players know it.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Shifter:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
You gotta wonder who that was...a starter or some unknown bench warmer. Either way, doesn't matter because they're correct. I look forward to destroying the Cards w/ him as their starting QB. Leinart couldn't even throw a TD pass last season, but he's good at throwing several INTs. When you can't put up decent #s w/ Boldin/Fitz are your primary WRs, you know you suck!

Leinart did not play much last year but in the few chances he got he did a decent job of making his reads and finding his open targets. He never really has had much of a chance to play since his rookie year so it's kind of unfair to say he sucks because he isn't putting up decent numbers. It's hard to improve when you are the backup QB and are not getting significant game reps. Truth of the matter is his completion % was good and was on par with Alex Smith who certainly hasn't fared any better as a pro to date.

Leinart's future in the NFL as a starter will ride heavily on this season and I'd bet Whiz starts to run the ball a lot more to take pressure off of Leinart. The offense will also be a little different seeing as Leinart's skill set is different than Warner's.

I don't think ML will be great but he can be serviceable starter in the meantime for them and I would not count them out of the NFC West title race. It is still there division to lose.
i WOULD swap Leinart for Smith in a heartbeat


18 TDs 12 INTs vs 0 TDs and like 3 INTs despite throwing to Fitz, Breaston, and boldin... I feel freaking sorry for you man.

Comparing stats from a guy who started multiple games vs a guy who started 2 games and played in a 3rd due to injury is really proving nothing.

Why don't we compare rookie stats then...

Alex Smith

G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 9   7  84 165 50.9 875 5.3 1 11 
Matt Leinart
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 12   11  214 377 56.8 2,547 6.8 11 12


I wouldn't make the trade straight up, or even trade for ML altogether, but your comparison is beyond ridiculous.

Umm...I could say your post is ridiculous, too, when you bring up rookie seasons in '05/'06. At least I can agree that I wouldn't trade for him at all. Why don't we just post up total career #s, I think that's a more fair comparison.

Leinart
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
340 595 57.1 3,893 6.5 14 20 29 212 70.8 46 90 2.0 2 11 3

Smith
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
660 1,172 56.3 7,029 6.0 37 43 103 642 69.2 111 390 3.5 2 30 14

I reiterate, I'm not much of a Smith supporter, but even I would rather have him leading our team than Leinart. BTW, neither are impressive overall, but Smith is finally showing progress while Leinart isn't. In any case, both will have a full season to prove their worth and Smith is my favorite to continue showing progression and who is more talented of the two.

The point was to show the comparison on their careers is far from an easy one and one stats won't prove to have an answer for.

Leinart didn't play half of a season last year so it's hard to show any progress when you have but a few snaps to work off of and was pretty good vs Tennessee but wasn't very good vs GB at season's end, then again his team was already guaranteed a playoff spot, could not secure the #2 seed and so they played safe.

Eh Smith got more time but at the same time Leinart wound up losing his job because he was worse than Warner, Smith's career was horrible at first but then he improved and then an injury cost him 2 years. Leinart's been on the bench his last few years and its his own fault because if he had been playing decent they would've never started Warner in 08, Leinart came into TC as the starter and then Whisenhunt saw that he wasn't doing so well and decided to make it a QB competition. Sure Warner was the better player but they wouldn't have benched Leinart if he didn't cause them to doubt that he was the QB of the future. Alex won his job back while Leinart got his job back because the guy in front of him retired.

Leinart is supposedly a huge douche who is more interested in partying with underaged girls than getting better while Smith really has stuck his nose to the grindstone so he could come back and try to be a good player. Smith also has guys like Vernon Davis pumping him up, and expressing confidence in him(when Smith came back in and played well VS Houston Vernon said he wasn't surprised at all Smith played that well), while Leinart's teammates panicked when Warner retired and now you have them calling him a p***y to guys in the media. Guys see the work Smith is puting in to get better, and they don't hate him. Cards players are obviously worried about how they're going to do with Leinart at the helm. I would definitely take Smith of Leinart. The only reason anyone thinks Leinart is any good is still just based off of what he did in college.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Shifter:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
You gotta wonder who that was...a starter or some unknown bench warmer. Either way, doesn't matter because they're correct. I look forward to destroying the Cards w/ him as their starting QB. Leinart couldn't even throw a TD pass last season, but he's good at throwing several INTs. When you can't put up decent #s w/ Boldin/Fitz are your primary WRs, you know you suck!

Leinart did not play much last year but in the few chances he got he did a decent job of making his reads and finding his open targets. He never really has had much of a chance to play since his rookie year so it's kind of unfair to say he sucks because he isn't putting up decent numbers. It's hard to improve when you are the backup QB and are not getting significant game reps. Truth of the matter is his completion % was good and was on par with Alex Smith who certainly hasn't fared any better as a pro to date.

Leinart's future in the NFL as a starter will ride heavily on this season and I'd bet Whiz starts to run the ball a lot more to take pressure off of Leinart. The offense will also be a little different seeing as Leinart's skill set is different than Warner's.

I don't think ML will be great but he can be serviceable starter in the meantime for them and I would not count them out of the NFC West title race. It is still there division to lose.
i WOULD swap Leinart for Smith in a heartbeat


18 TDs 12 INTs vs 0 TDs and like 3 INTs despite throwing to Fitz, Breaston, and boldin... I feel freaking sorry for you man.

Comparing stats from a guy who started multiple games vs a guy who started 2 games and played in a 3rd due to injury is really proving nothing.

Why don't we compare rookie stats then...

Alex Smith

G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 9   7  84 165 50.9 875 5.3 1 11 
Matt Leinart
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD
 12   11  214 377 56.8 2,547 6.8 11 12


I wouldn't make the trade straight up, or even trade for ML altogether, but your comparison is beyond ridiculous.

Umm...I could say your post is ridiculous, too, when you bring up rookie seasons in '05/'06. At least I can agree that I wouldn't trade for him at all. Why don't we just post up total career #s, I think that's a more fair comparison.

Leinart
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
340 595 57.1 3,893 6.5 14 20 29 212 70.8 46 90 2.0 2 11 3

Smith
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
660 1,172 56.3 7,029 6.0 37 43 103 642 69.2 111 390 3.5 2 30 14

I reiterate, I'm not much of a Smith supporter, but even I would rather have him leading our team than Leinart. BTW, neither are impressive overall, but Smith is finally showing progress while Leinart isn't. In any case, both will have a full season to prove their worth and Smith is my favorite to continue showing progression and who is more talented of the two.

The point was to show the comparison on their careers is far from an easy one and one stats won't prove to have an answer for.

Leinart didn't play half of a season last year so it's hard to show any progress when you have but a few snaps to work off of and was pretty good vs Tennessee but wasn't very good vs GB at season's end, then again his team was already guaranteed a playoff spot, could not secure the #2 seed and so they played safe.

Eh Smith got more time but at the same time Leinart wound up losing his job because he was worse than Warner, Smith's career was horrible at first but then he improved and then an injury cost him 2 years. Leinart's been on the bench his last few years and its his own fault because if he had been playing decent they would've never started Warner in 08, Leinart came into TC as the starter and then Whisenhunt saw that he wasn't doing so well and decided to make it a QB competition. Sure Warner was the better player but they wouldn't have benched Leinart if he didn't cause them to doubt that he was the QB of the future. Alex won his job back while Leinart got his job back because the guy in front of him retired.

Leinart is supposedly a huge douche who is more interested in partying with underaged girls than getting better while Smith really has stuck his nose to the grindstone so he could come back and try to be a good player. Smith also has guys like Vernon Davis pumping him up, and expressing confidence in him(when Smith came back in and played well VS Houston Vernon said he wasn't surprised at all Smith played that well), while Leinart's teammates panicked when Warner retired and now you have them calling him a p***y to guys in the media. Guys see the work Smith is puting in to get better, and they don't hate him. Cards players are obviously worried about how they're going to do with Leinart at the helm. I would definitely take Smith of Leinart. The only reason anyone thinks Leinart is any good is still just based off of what he did in college.

Alex did not win the job back per se. He got inserted at the half due to Hill's less than mediocre play under center. He held onto the job as the team finally woke the f**k up and realized the kid plays best from a spread style offense. Hopefully we stick to this base offense and not try to go back to playing Raye-ball. Holding off Shaun Hill is a much easier task than trying to beat the wily old vet in Warner.

FTR only 1 teammate said something about ML.
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He's just the typical USC offensive player. All hype, no heart and more interested in being Hollywood than making the HOF.
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