Originally posted by Aussie49er:Originally posted by Legbreaker:Originally posted by Aussie49er:Originally posted by Legbreaker:Originally posted by Aussie49er:
Thats why I have always laughed at people talking NFL players up as elite athletes. To think 11mins of action in total.
Meaning Peyton Manning plays 5mins a game, maybe 6 to 7.
Rugby player > NFL players
Totally different sports. No comparison, regardless of the similarities between the two.
The average NFL player wouldn't have the wind to play on a professional side, and I guarantee you that the biggest, baddest rugby player in the universe would get his balls handed to him by the NFL's hardest hitter. That just is what it is.
Not trying to talk sh*t...but seriously...rugby players are best used as kickers or punters in the NFL.
I disagree, with your assessment of what NFL players would do to the baddest Rugby player. Ray Lewis is considered a big hitter, he is 6-1 250 pounds, there are plenty of rugby players that size. If you can take a hit without pads, you can take a hit with pads, that is just a fact. Anyone who disagrees with that is trying to talk s&^t.
..but Rugby players don't hit the way NFL Players do. Rugby is a wrap tackling game. Ray Lewis is a big hitter...but what about a smaller wrecking machine? There are safeties in the NFL that run 205-220 that can put a 230-240 lb running back on his @ss. There is much more hitting going on in football than in rugby.
Just as an NFL player wouldn't have the juice to run with a professional side, I can guarantee you that a big, scary, fast rugby player would run high into someone like Patrick Willis and get crushed. The two sports have two entirely different ways of hitting and tackling, and that just is what it is.
Now...you might think I'm talking sh*t, but honestly, I'm not. Rugby players make great kickers and punters because of their ability to angle the ball, get backspin on it, etc. That's actually a compliment, not a slight.
If you still want to be huffy, that's on you.
Honestly a lot of BIG HITS are on WR's or RB's that are off balanced. They have the chance to line these hits up, however if these "heavy hitters" were on a rugby field, they wouldn't be able to line a lot of big hits up, plus I'd love to see Patrick Willis putting on heavy hits in the 79th minute of a game, after he himself has taken a few shots.
Rugby players aren't punters or kickers in the NFL anyway those are Aussie Rules players. Just by sheer volume of tackles I'd say there are more hits in a rugby game anyway.
It isn't volume...its magnitude. The "fat guys" you seem to enjoy bashing live to hit. I'd take Joe Greene against any Rugby player you could come up with in a hitting drill. Or Leo Nomellini. Or Bob St. Clair. Or Ernie Ladd. Or Chuck Bednarik. Or Randy White.
Next...I already conceded that a pro football player wouldn't have the juice to run with a professional side for an entire game, so we don't need to worry about Patrick Willis putting on heavy hits in the 79th minute of a game.
Finally, I never said that Ruby players are kickers...I said that thier best use on an American Football team would be as a kicker. Or maybe as a special teamer.
Lets face it...the sports are different. It isn't a slight...but it is a fact. The high tackling that is against the rules in Rugby is run of the mill in the NFL.
And with that, I'm leaving the thread.