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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by NinerFan1979:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

You guys should check out the Vikings message boards. They are complaining about every call the refs made. What a bunch of babies. The only real call that is questionable is the PI in OT. I don't like the call but they made that exact same call against the Saints on the tying TD in the 4th so you gotta stay consistent.

that game was called horribly but what lost the vikings the game was all the fumbles

The fumbles were the most important factor in their loss.
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by TheNaitch:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by Negrodamus:
Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
This is why gunslingers like Marino and Favre can never be compared to guys like Montana/Brady/Manning. Sure they put up big stats. But a lot of times they hurt their teams in the process.


Exactly. Give me W's and Superbowls over big stats.

"Stats are for losers," Belichick said. "The final score is for winners."


You all are conveniently forgetting one thing: Favre won a Super Bowl. He also lost one, but nonetheless, he has done better than Marino. And besides, Belichick lost a Super Bowl!

I'm not talking only about SB victories. I'm talking abou stats that really don't help your team.

When you look at gunslingers what you see is impressive "ABSOLUTE" number: numbers of yards, attempts, TDs etc. However they are pretty mediocre when it comes to "RELATIVE" stats: comp. pct, TD-INT ratio, QB rating.

Which means their stats smany times hurt their teams. Sure passing for 4.000 yards a season is sexy, but not when you're doing it with a "f**k-it-I'm-throwing-deep" mentality. Look at the number of INTs Marino and Favre have had over the years.

You can say that Marino never played on a great team. But I can recall numerous times when he would throw games away with boneheaded plays like Favre did yesterday.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Him feeling like crap after throwing picks to lose playoff games. Hmmm. One would think he's used to that by now.

LOL.
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Dude his team fumbled 6 times. 6 times! Putting all of this loss on Favre is absurd. I expect as much on a 49ers website. But fumbling 6 times doesn't give you a good chance to win.

1) The Vikings are not in the playoffs without Favre.
2) They don't go as deep as they did without Favre.

Favre losing this game is massively overstated by the WZ and some members of the media.

Those 6 fumbles didn't matter at all. It was all Favre...
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by NinerFan1979:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

You guys should check out the Vikings message boards. They are complaining about every call the refs made. What a bunch of babies. The only real call that is questionable is the PI in OT. I don't like the call but they made that exact same call against the Saints on the tying TD in the 4th so you gotta stay consistent.

that game was called horribly but what lost the vikings the game was all the fumbles

Yeah I thought that there were a couple of questionable calls that could have gone either way. The Meachem catch with this thigh I thought should have been overturned. That one left me scratching my ahead.

-9fA
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Dude his team fumbled 6 times. 6 times! Putting all of this loss on Favre is absurd. I expect as much on a 49ers website. But fumbling 6 times doesn't give you a good chance to win.

1) The Vikings are not in the playoffs without Favre.
2) They don't go as deep as they did without Favre.

Favre losing this game is massively overstated by the WZ and some members of the media.

Those 6 fumbles didn't matter at all. It was all Favre...

Favre had a chance to run the ball, take a knee, throw it away etc.

He threw the ball across his body into coverage. Like Aikman said "Thats one of the first things they teach you..not to do that"
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Dude his team fumbled 6 times. 6 times! Putting all of this loss on Favre is absurd. I expect as much on a 49ers website. But fumbling 6 times doesn't give you a good chance to win.

1) The Vikings are not in the playoffs without Favre.
2) They don't go as deep as they did without Favre.

Favre losing this game is massively overstated by the WZ and some members of the media.

Those 6 fumbles didn't matter at all. It was all Favre...

Favre had a chance to run the ball, take a knee, throw it away etc.

He threw the ball across his body into coverage. Like Aikman said "Thats one of the first things they teach you..not to do that"

6 fumbles buddy. That's how they lost. You take away even some and they win the game.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Dude his team fumbled 6 times. 6 times! Putting all of this loss on Favre is absurd. I expect as much on a 49ers website. But fumbling 6 times doesn't give you a good chance to win.

1) The Vikings are not in the playoffs without Favre.
2) They don't go as deep as they did without Favre.

Favre losing this game is massively overstated by the WZ and some members of the media.

Those 6 fumbles didn't matter at all. It was all Favre...

I didn't say it was his fault. But you know he's probably wondering "what if I don't attempt that pass?". They had 6 fumbles and they lost 3 of them, I don't remember if the Saints scored off all 3. But even despite those fumbles they still had a chance to win the game. Whoever made that playcall to pass deserves as much, if not more criticism as Favre for throwing across his body. But if the Vikings win the coin toss and score no one is talking about that int so
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
It must suck to wake up and be Brett favre

Are you sure? He's made over $100 Million in his career. How much have you made? He won the Super Bowl and played in another. He's been in the playoffs over and over again. He's clearly one of the top QB's to ever play overall.

What does the money he made or the money Youngone has made have to do with anything? You think that 100M makes Favre feel any better about the game? Favre is waking up with a sour taste in his mouth that won't go away for a long time knowing that if he doesn't make that pass it could have been different and his team could be in the Super Bowl. Plus the entire media is talking about how he screwed up. I think it's safe to say he probably feels like crap right now.

Dude his team fumbled 6 times. 6 times! Putting all of this loss on Favre is absurd. I expect as much on a 49ers website. But fumbling 6 times doesn't give you a good chance to win.

1) The Vikings are not in the playoffs without Favre.
2) They don't go as deep as they did without Favre.

Favre losing this game is massively overstated by the WZ and some members of the media.

Those 6 fumbles didn't matter at all. It was all Favre...

I didn't say it was his fault. But you know he's probably wondering "what if I don't attempt that pass?". They had 6 fumbles and they lost 3 of them, I don't remember if the Saints scored off all 3. But even despite those fumbles they still had a chance to win the game. Whoever made that playcall to pass deserves as much, if not more criticism as Favre for throwing across his body. But if the Vikings win the coin toss and score no one is talking about that int so

1) A run would have been better on that play IMO.
2) 12 guys in the huddle killed them and put them out of field goal range.
3) If they win coin toss they may have won. It's not like they got blown out. They played good enough exept for the turnovers.