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Is Jay Cutler better than Alex Smith?

Is Jay Cutler better than Alex Smith?

Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.
Good job Desi, hit them with the facts.
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.

you forgot the most important stat of all
Cutler is 24-29 as a starter, dude is a loser, sure he can throw the ball far and hard, but he cant win and hasnt won since high school cmon man he couldnt even win in college he was 11-35 in college

Alex Smith obviously hasnt won in the NFL either and if he doesnt win this coming year he will be done, well at least with the niners anyway.


I just dont get the love with Cutler dude has had 3 full seasons as an NFL starter and he has shown time after time that he cant win, Cutler will be a back up QB in 3 years
Originally posted by valrod33:

you forgot the most important stat of all
Cutler is 24-29 as a starter, dude is a loser, sure he can throw the ball far and hard, but he cant win and hasnt won since high school cmon man he couldnt even win in college he was 11-35 in college

Alex Smith obviously hasnt won in the NFL either and if he doesnt win this coming year he will be done, well at least with the niners anyway.


I just dont get the love with Cutler dude has had 3 full seasons as an NFL starter and he has shown time after time that he cant win, Cutler will be a back up QB in 3 years

And your point?

This thread is about who's better not whether or not Jay Cutler is actually good.

So if Cutler will be a backup in 3 years and he's better than Alex, then where is Alex gonna be in 3 years?
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by valrod33:

you forgot the most important stat of all
Cutler is 24-29 as a starter, dude is a loser, sure he can throw the ball far and hard, but he cant win and hasnt won since high school cmon man he couldnt even win in college he was 11-35 in college

Alex Smith obviously hasnt won in the NFL either and if he doesnt win this coming year he will be done, well at least with the niners anyway.


I just dont get the love with Cutler dude has had 3 full seasons as an NFL starter and he has shown time after time that he cant win, Cutler will be a back up QB in 3 years

And your point?

This thread is about who's better not whether or not Jay Cutler is actually good.

So if Cutler will be a backup in 3 years and he's better than Alex, then where is Alex gonna be in 3 years?

lol
[ Edited by valrod33 on Jan 6, 2010 at 8:00 AM ]
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Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.



I like how you compare each player’s career stats to prove your point LOL one guy who’s been a full time starter for the last three years in a row to a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 06 kind of hard to say Alex has had a career in pro football so far.

Something you fail to see with your little career stats argument.

Cutler has gotten worse each year he’s been a starter.
Year – comp % - Int – Rate
2007 – 63.6 – 14 – 88.1
2008 – 62.3 – 18 – 86.0
2009 – 60.5 – 26 – 76.8

Unless he changes his attitude from a crybaby little b***h he will continue to suck he will have an all new offensive coaches next year and he’ll probably have a problem with them.

While on the flip side Alex Smith made a tremendous improvement from the starter he was in 06 and doing what he’s done this year.
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.



I like how you compare each player’s career stats to prove your point LOL one guy who’s been a full time starter for the last three years in a row to a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 06 kind of hard to say Alex has had a career in pro football so far.

Something you fail to see with your little career stats argument.

Cutler has gotten worse each year he’s been a starter.
Year – comp % - Int – Rate
2007 – 63.6 – 14 – 88.1
2008 – 62.3 – 18 – 86.0
2009 – 60.5 – 26 – 76.8

Unless he changes his attitude from a crybaby little b***h he will continue to suck he will have an all new offensive coaches next year and he’ll probably have a problem with them.

While on the flip side Alex Smith made a tremendous improvement from the starter he was in 06 and doing what he’s done this year.

Cutler's also better than Alex in this aspect: not getting hurt. Add that to the resume.
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Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.



I like how you compare each player’s career stats to prove your point LOL one guy who’s been a full time starter for the last three years in a row to a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 06 kind of hard to say Alex has had a career in pro football so far.

Something you fail to see with your little career stats argument.

Cutler has gotten worse each year he’s been a starter.
Year – comp % - Int – Rate
2007 – 63.6 – 14 – 88.1
2008 – 62.3 – 18 – 86.0
2009 – 60.5 – 26 – 76.8

Unless he changes his attitude from a crybaby little b***h he will continue to suck he will have an all new offensive coaches next year and he’ll probably have a problem with them.

While on the flip side Alex Smith made a tremendous improvement from the starter he was in 06 and doing what he’s done this year.

Cutler's also better than Alex in this aspect: not getting hurt. Add that to the resume.

oh please you can't be serious

John Elway was better than Joe Montana at not getting hurt
Troy Aikman was better than Steve Young

it was the players who missed blocks that broke Joes back Steve's head and Smith's shoulder

lol
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.



I like how you compare each player’s career stats to prove your point LOL one guy who’s been a full time starter for the last three years in a row to a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 06 kind of hard to say Alex has had a career in pro football so far.

Something you fail to see with your little career stats argument.

Cutler has gotten worse each year he’s been a starter.
Year – comp % - Int – Rate
2007 – 63.6 – 14 – 88.1
2008 – 62.3 – 18 – 86.0
2009 – 60.5 – 26 – 76.8

Unless he changes his attitude from a crybaby little b***h he will continue to suck he will have an all new offensive coaches next year and he’ll probably have a problem with them.

While on the flip side Alex Smith made a tremendous improvement from the starter he was in 06 and doing what he’s done this year.

Cutler's also better than Alex in this aspect: not getting hurt. Add that to the resume.

oh please you can't be serious

John Elway was better than Joe Montana at not getting hurt
Troy Aikman was better than Steve Young

it was the players who missed blocks that broke Joes back Steve's head and Smith's shoulder

lol

hahah trueee, but the point is...Alex was SUPPOSED to be a full time starter for 3 years. More than likely Cutler's numbers would still dominate Alex's.
[ Edited by WheresWaldo on Jan 6, 2010 at 10:41 AM ]
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Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Jay Cutler is better than Alex Smith. Even the stats prove it:
Jay cutler stats from Yahoo
Alex smith stats from yahoo

Career QB rating:
Jay - 83.8
Alex - 69.2

Career Completion %:
Jay - 61.9
Alex - 56.3

Career Passing Yds:
Jay - 12690
Alex - 7029

Career Yds per game:
Jay - 239.4
Alex - 163.5

Career yds per attempt:
Jay - 7.1
Alex - 6.0

TD:INT ratio
Jay - 81:63
Alex - 37:43

Cutler ever has better rushing stats:
Jay - 153 att, 596 yds, 3.9 avg, 4 TDs
Alex - 111 att, 390 yds, 3.5 avg, 2 TDs

And Cutler has been to 1 Pro Bowl, and Alex has not even come close.



I like how you compare each player’s career stats to prove your point LOL one guy who’s been a full time starter for the last three years in a row to a guy that hasn’t played a full season since 06 kind of hard to say Alex has had a career in pro football so far.

Something you fail to see with your little career stats argument.

Cutler has gotten worse each year he’s been a starter.
Year – comp % - Int – Rate
2007 – 63.6 – 14 – 88.1
2008 – 62.3 – 18 – 86.0
2009 – 60.5 – 26 – 76.8

Unless he changes his attitude from a crybaby little b***h he will continue to suck he will have an all new offensive coaches next year and he’ll probably have a problem with them.

While on the flip side Alex Smith made a tremendous improvement from the starter he was in 06 and doing what he’s done this year.

Cutler's also better than Alex in this aspect: not getting hurt. Add that to the resume.

oh please you can't be serious

John Elway was better than Joe Montana at not getting hurt
Troy Aikman was better than Steve Young

it was the players who missed blocks that broke Joes back Steve's head and Smith's shoulder

lol

hahah trueee, but the point is...Alex was SUPPOSED to be a full time starter for 3 years. More than likely Cutler's numbers would still dominate Alex's.

true but Cutler was drafted by a good team who had a great OL and a HOF coach Smith was drafted by a s**t team a crap OL and played for so many coaches he doesn't know his ass from his head so in that regard I'd say he's done well while Cutler is just pissing his talent away by being a douchebag
A career comparison is not an accurate one in this case IMO. Just like Urban Meyer described Alex is Non Functional until he gets it. This is the first year he started to get it. Plus he was injured 2 years and not the starter at certain points. So a career comparison is heavily slanted in favor of Cutler. He's had no major injuries and has always been the starter.

Look at 2009 when Alex is starting to make progress.

Jay Cutler 2009 season.

TDS 27 INT 26 YDS 3,666 RTG 76.8

************************************

Alex Smith 2009 season.

TDS 18 INT 12 YDS 2,350 RTG 81.5

~ Rating = Better for Smith.
~ TD to Interception ratio = Better for Smith.

Alex did not play a full season. Project that to a full season and Alex = better IMO. Cutler may be the most overrated guy on this board. He has a $100 Million arm and a 10 Cent head. His decisions are terrible. He throws way to many picks and kills the team.
Originally posted by susweel:
I would trade you 10 Alex Smith's for one Jay Cutler.

why, so you can have an OVERrated mediocre QB instead of an UNDERrated mediocre QB?

whats the point? Alex Smith is WAY more protective of the football now than Jay Cutler has ever been.

anyone whod rather have Jay Cutler didnt watch football this season. that game Cutler had against the Niners this year? Alex Smith hasnt had that bad a game in his career.

Cutler threw a pick, or fumbled the football 35 times this year. Smith had 14 total in only 5 less games. Cutler's passer rating this year? 76.8. Alex Smith? 81.5. completion %? identical 60.5%

is Cutler really better than Smith?
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would trade you 10 Alex Smith's for one Jay Cutler.

why, so you can have an OVERrated mediocre QB instead of an UNDERrated mediocre QB?

whats the point? Alex Smith is WAY more protective of the football now than Jay Cutler has ever been.

anyone whod rather have Jay Cutler didnt watch football this season. that game Cutler had against the Niners this year? Alex Smith hasnt had that bad a game in his career.

Cutler threw a pick, or fumbled the football 35 times this year. Smith had 14 total in only 5 less games. Cutler's passer rating this year? 76.8. Alex Smith? 81.5. completion %? identical 60.5%

is Cutler really better than Smith?

Key words "this season". What about when Smith was stinking it up the past couple of seasons while Cutler was looking like an All-Pro? Everyone has a down year while others have up years. People weren't questioning Cutler while he was on the Broncos. It's hard to throw the ball when your #1 receiver is Devin Hester and the other is a rookie.
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would trade you 10 Alex Smith's for one Jay Cutler.

why, so you can have an OVERrated mediocre QB instead of an UNDERrated mediocre QB?

whats the point? Alex Smith is WAY more protective of the football now than Jay Cutler has ever been.

anyone whod rather have Jay Cutler didnt watch football this season. that game Cutler had against the Niners this year? Alex Smith hasnt had that bad a game in his career.

Cutler threw a pick, or fumbled the football 35 times this year. Smith had 14 total in only 5 less games. Cutler's passer rating this year? 76.8. Alex Smith? 81.5. completion %? identical 60.5%

is Cutler really better than Smith?

Key words "this season". What about when Smith was stinking it up the past couple of seasons while Cutler was looking like an All-Pro? Everyone has a down year while others have up years. People weren't questioning Cutler while he was on the Broncos. It's hard to throw the ball when your #1 receiver is Devin Hester and the other is a rookie.

Smith was hurt those past couple of season you are talking about
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by susweel:
I would trade you 10 Alex Smith's for one Jay Cutler.

why, so you can have an OVERrated mediocre QB instead of an UNDERrated mediocre QB?

whats the point? Alex Smith is WAY more protective of the football now than Jay Cutler has ever been.

anyone whod rather have Jay Cutler didnt watch football this season. that game Cutler had against the Niners this year? Alex Smith hasnt had that bad a game in his career.

Cutler threw a pick, or fumbled the football 35 times this year. Smith had 14 total in only 5 less games. Cutler's passer rating this year? 76.8. Alex Smith? 81.5. completion %? identical 60.5%

is Cutler really better than Smith?

Key words "this season". What about when Smith was stinking it up the past couple of seasons while Cutler was looking like an All-Pro? Everyone has a down year while others have up years. People weren't questioning Cutler while he was on the Broncos. It's hard to throw the ball when your #1 receiver is Devin Hester and the other is a rookie.

Oh really....

So all the years Smith had no #1 WR until this year don't count. And only this year Vernon Davis started to break out. Before this he wasn't good.

So what you are saying is WR's, TE's and even O Line (the whole team around you) effects a QB's overall play.

That's an interesting concept. I wonder if that applies to Alex Smith too with all the garbage teams he was on. Just this year we started to get slightly better...