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Raiders trade for Seymour

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
WHat a desperate move by the Raiders, Seymour is on the decline and trade a 1st rd pick which will likely be a top 10 and probably top 5 pick in 2011, just stupid. But then again, Al Davis probably figures he will be dead by then so he don't give a f&^%

ROTFLMAO!!!
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First round picks mostly bust anyways. Seymour is a sure thing.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
Originally posted by crzy:
I don't understand why the Patriots would trade away Richard Seymour when they're trying to win the championship THIS YEAR.

Sure they will win out in the long term with the 1st rounder.

But it makes their team that much weaker for this season.

Yeah, this is where i'm at. On Defense, the Patriots now have 2 quality players in Mayo and Wilfork. Yeah there is some talent here and there, but they are significantly weaker today.

And if the Raiders can sign Seymour to a long term contract, then they got better.

I don't think this deal is as bad for the Raiders as people are thinking.

It leaves them with little depth on the defensive line, but Jarvis Green has more than adequately replaced Seymour before. See their undeafeted season.

Like I said before New England had some serious choices to make with Seymour, Wilfork, and Green contract's expiring this season. It's best to be proactive on this issue.
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".

He has another year under contract.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Giving up your 1st (in a strong draft) for a one year rental?

I could understand if it was a contending team, but the raiders arent even there yet.

That would be funny if Seymour leaves Oakland in free agency next year. He may even take less money just to resign with the Patriots.
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
remember seymour is going to play DT

raiders run a 4-3

pats of course run a 3-4

However, he is in a contract year and may put up huge numbers to get paid

He was a 4-3 DT in college and his first 2 years in the NFL before the Pats moved to the 3-4 Defense. He still played DT in nickel situations since the move to the 3-4 base.


Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".


The draft pick in in 2011 so the Raiders still have a 1st rounder next year and they have the option of franchising him if they can't resign him to a long term deal. At that point they could always trade him if he refuses to play for them.

They can franchise if they so chose, however they can't trade a player who isn't under contract!!!

False

The Raiders can trade him even after he signs the tender.

See: Matt Cassel


They can trade him AFTER signs is correct however I said they couldn't trade BEFORE they sign him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ Edited by tn9er on Sep 6, 2009 at 12:15:00 ]
Originally posted by crzy:
First round picks mostly bust anyways. Seymour is a sure thing.

Especially Raiders first rounders.

Al Davis will have to take the fastest 40 time available in the second round.
I would hate to play for the Raiders in a contract year.
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Originally posted by Angryninerfan:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".

He has another year under contract.



Thats what I said ......
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by Angryninerfan:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".

He has another year under contract.



Thats what I said ......

According to NFL.com his contract is up this year.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by Angryninerfan:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".

He has another year under contract.



Thats what I said ......

According to NFL.com his contract is up this year.

The highlighted portion of my post reads "Seymore is in the last year of his contract".
Isn't that saying the samething?????
Well, there goes his career
great move. i wonder how seymour feels haha. going from a dynasty caliber team to the raiders
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by Angryninerfan:
Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Patriots-trade-Richard-Seymour-to-Raiders.html


f**kING WOW. Great f**king move by Oakland, Seymour and Ellis should certainly help that front 7 vs both the run and pass.

You're not taking into account that Seymore is in the last year of his contract, which means that the Patriots can get Seymore back next year after he realizes that "the grass isn't always greener on the other side".

He has another year under contract.



Thats what I said ......

According to NFL.com his contract is up this year.

The highlighted portion of my post reads "Seymore is in the last year of his contract".
Isn't that saying the samething?????

Somewhere things got mixed up. Someone replied he has another year under contract, and you replied that's what I said. Well he doesn't have another year. This is his final year.

I don't think it matters. I doubt Oakland made the trade unless it was confident it could get a long term deal done.
so you're telling me NE's gonna be a contender AND pick in the top ten..........AGAIN.