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What are other teams' fans saying about the Crabtree holdout?

  • Adman
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.

You are correct in that is the most Crabtree's contract can be...but it's not because of the rookie cap the nfl sort of has now....

It was my impression that a team has a certain amount they designate to spend on signing draft picks. However, how the team divides up the money is up to the front office. Meaning, Crabtree's contract can only be that amount for this year because they already spent the other draft money on the other picks. So they are stuck signing him to the amount of money they still have left over in the rookie draft fund.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.

I have a solution. How about no gauranteed money. Saved the gauranteed money for players that have proved themselves. Why gaurantee them money when there is no gaurantee that they will even be a productive player.
  • Adman
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Originally posted by Adman:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.

You are correct in that is the most Crabtree's contract can be...but it's not because of the rookie cap the nfl sort of has now....

It was my impression that a team has a certain amount they designate to spend on signing draft picks. However, how the team divides up the money is up to the front office. Meaning, Crabtree's contract can only be that amount for this year because they already spent the other draft money on the other picks. So they are stuck signing him to the amount of money they still have left over in the rookie draft fund.


no the league designates how much they can spend, but it changes by your draft picks. if you have the #1 and #2 pick, you will be given more than somebody who has no 1st round picks.
  • krizay
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Originally posted by Adman:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

With all due respect. there is already a rookie cap in place that basically looks similar to this chart. Each team is awarded a certain amoutnt of money for their draft picks. The most Crabtree's contract can be is 1.3ish this year. The problem lies in the Gauranteed money.


You come up with a formula for that and you're on to something.

You are correct in that is the most Crabtree's contract can be...but it's not because of the rookie cap the nfl sort of has now....

It was my impression that a team has a certain amount they designate to spend on signing draft picks. However, how the team divides up the money is up to the front office. Meaning, Crabtree's contract can only be that amount for this year because they already spent the other draft money on the other picks. So they are stuck signing him to the amount of money they still have left over in the rookie draft fund.

I know how it works. I was giving you the short version. Didn't think you was going to get all technical.

But in the end. It basically looks like the chart you propsed. Which obviously doesn't help the situation.
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

You do something like this (above) and most of the great football athletes will switch to basketball, boxing, or baseball.

Football contracts are deceptive, you have a contract that is not gauranteed except for bonuses! I would be asking for big money too, especially with the system the way it is now! This is it for crabtree in terms of a huge contract unless all goes well! Hell, Randy Moss got traded for a 4th round pick and soon after he lead the league in TD catches including breaking the recieving TD record!
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Adman:
A rookie should not be able to make any more than $750,000 - $1,000,000.

I mean $750,000 is still a s**t load of money and it would take your average person over 5 years to make at the least!

1st rounders: $1,000,000 - $750,000
2nd rounders: $750,000 - $650,000
3rd rounders: $650,000 - $575,000
4th rounders: $575,000 - $500,000
5th rounders: $500,000 - $450,000
6th rounders: $450,000 - $400,000
7th rounders: $400,000 - $375,000
Undrafted Rookies: $375,000 - $300,000

You do something like this (above) and most of the great football athletes will switch to basketball, boxing, or baseball.

Football contracts are deceptive, you have a contract that is not gauranteed except for bonuses! I would be asking for big money too, especially with the system the way it is now! This is it for crabtree in terms of a huge contract unless all goes well! Hell, Randy Moss got traded for a 4th round pick and soon after he lead the league in TD catches including breaking the recieving TD record!

please have the NFL name it the Crabtree Salary Scale.
This does not mean i support Crabtree's hold out... but yeah, the fact that Aaron Maybin and other players and fans are blaming Crabtree for their situation is ridiculous. If they are pissed at Crabtree because they cant sign and are missing Pre-season games then so be it. If the game was that important to them they would have signed already.

These players can b***h all they want, but ultimately they are responsible. I stand by the organization for not giving in to such ridiculous demands.
Originally posted by modninerfan:
This does not mean i support Crabtree's hold out... but yeah, the fact that Aaron Maybin and other players and fans are blaming Crabtree for their situation is ridiculous. If they are pissed at Crabtree because they cant sign and are missing Pre-season games then so be it. If the game was that important to them they would have signed already.

These players can b***h all they want, but ultimately they are responsible. I stand by the organization for not giving in to such ridiculous demands.

LaVar is like Crabtree's cousin, he made a public comment without talking to the agent first. This shows how much power these agents have. These young men don't realize they are the ones paying the agents.

While the agent is having their client hold out for more money, the fact is the player could sign a contract today and direct their agent to take whatever money is being offered (which unless your Master P doing Ricky Williams contract) is probably good money.
All my friends are telling me that Crabtree has a vag. I didn't know he had one.