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Name a great team without a great safety?

Colts -- Bob Sanders
AZ -- (not calling them great, but they were in the SB) Adrian Wilson
Pittsburgh -- Palamalu
Ravens -- Ed Reed
Patriots -- Rodney Harrison (while they were winning championships)
Phili -- Brian Dawkins (when they were winning games)
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Colts -- Bob Sanders
AZ -- (not calling them great, but they were in the SB) Adrian Wilson
Pittsburgh -- Palamalu
Ravens -- Ed Reed
Patriots -- Rodney Harrison (while they were winning championships)
Phili -- Brian Dawkins (when they were winning games)


Seahawks was in the superbowl a few yrs back. Honestly I can't remember their safety at the time but I don't believe he was that good! Well wit the names ya have mentioned above he wasn't that caliber player. Hell darren sharper is a great safety but he wasn't a seahawk lol. Aint he a saint now?
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Colts -- Bob Sanders
AZ -- (not calling them great, but they were in the SB) Adrian Wilson
Pittsburgh -- Palamalu
Ravens -- Ed Reed
Patriots -- Rodney Harrison (while they were winning championships)
Phili -- Brian Dawkins (when they were winning games)

I don't know about some of those teams being "great".
Good teams are going to have good players?

-9fA
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Good teams are going to have good players?

-9fA


Yup, and even a guy like horse collar williams can make the probowl! Ha ha wtf huh
I'm just thinking that we need a game chaniging safety. I mean, the niners have never won a superbowl without 2 things:
-Hall of Fame QB
-Hall of Fame player in the secondary

Just an observation
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'm just thinking that we need a game chaniging safety. I mean, the niners have never won a superbowl without 2 things:
-Hall of Fame QB
-Hall of Fame player in the secondary

Just an observation


Good observation!
I just hope d gohlson can turn into a ballhawk for is in the mold of a merton hanks just always gettin his hands on the ball. Now that chicken dance. D ghol don't have the neck for it lol
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That's been my thoughts all along. That's pretty much the reason why I've been calling for players like Sean Taylor (RIP), Michael Huff, Brandon Merriweather, Kenny Phillips, LaRon Landry. A good safety can change a games momentum in the blink of an eye. Put Ed Reed, Bob Sanders or Troy Polumalu with the Detroit Lions and I bet they change their defensive rankings up 10 spots. I'm not yet sold on Goldson, I doubt really anyone is, but if he manages some big plays this upcoming season, I'll lay off the FS position....for now.
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'm just thinking that we need a game chaniging safety. I mean, the niners have never won a superbowl without 2 things:
-Hall of Fame QB
-Hall of Fame player in the secondary

Just an observation


Good observation!
I just hope d gohlson can turn into a ballhawk for is in the mold of a merton hanks just always gettin his hands on the ball. Now that chicken dance. D ghol don't have the neck for it lol

Maybe not the neck, but he could get some good action from this dreads.


Originally posted by Kolohe:
That's been my thoughts all along. That's pretty much the reason why I've been calling for players like Sean Taylor (RIP), Michael Huff, Brandon Merriweather, Kenny Phillips, LaRon Landry. A good safety can change a games momentum in the blink of an eye. Put Ed Reed, Bob Sanders or Troy Polumalu with the Detroit Lions and I bet they change their defensive rankings up 10 spots. I'm not yet sold on Goldson, I doubt really anyone is, but if he manages some big plays this upcoming season, I'll lay off the FS position....for now.


I definitely remember being a huge supporter of all of them. Outside of Taylor, however, none of these guys were the elite prospects safety-deprived fans made them out to be. Even Landry was widely considered a solid but not elite safety until he ran the 40. This is all going to change this year however with Berry (who I prefer), Mays, and 2 first round picks that could be used for moving up into the top 10
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I'm just thinking that we need a game chaniging safety. I mean, the niners have never won a superbowl without 2 things:
-Hall of Fame QB
-Hall of Fame player in the secondary

Just an observation


Good observation!
I just hope d gohlson can turn into a ballhawk for is in the mold of a merton hanks just always gettin his hands on the ball. Now that chicken dance. D ghol don't have the neck for it lol
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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
That's been my thoughts all along. That's pretty much the reason why I've been calling for players like Sean Taylor (RIP), Michael Huff, Brandon Merriweather, Kenny Phillips, LaRon Landry. A good safety can change a games momentum in the blink of an eye. Put Ed Reed, Bob Sanders or Troy Polumalu with the Detroit Lions and I bet they change their defensive rankings up 10 spots. I'm not yet sold on Goldson, I doubt really anyone is, but if he manages some big plays this upcoming season, I'll lay off the FS position....for now.


I definitely remember being a huge supporter of all of them. Outside of Taylor, however, none of these guys were the elite prospects safety-deprived fans made them out to be. Even Landry was widely considered a solid but not elite safety until he ran the 40. This is all going to change this year however with Berry (who I prefer), Mays, and 2 first round picks that could be used for moving up into the top 10

Think about it, the last two times we were in the playoffs we had who....Zack Bronson and Tony Parrish. Seems like whenever we have a good safety or a safety playing good we into the playoffs. Sure you can mention the 2003 season when Parrish had 9 picks, but there was a lot more drama going on that year than just our defense needing a safety. But like said if Goldson steps up this upcoming season, I'll layoff the position for now, but if he turns in a average season, I don't care, we cannot pass on Eric Berry or Taylor Mays, something needs to be done about the FS position already.
The 2003 Carolina Panthers went to Super Bowl XXXVIII with Mike Minter and Deon Grant
Originally posted by BigYellowKahuna:
The 2003 Carolina Panthers went to Super Bowl XXXVIII with Mike Minter and Deon Grant

My point exactly: in the last 6 years you named 1 team. Maybe you can name 20 teams in the last 10 years. But the overwhelming evidence points to safeties being key to good teams
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
That's been my thoughts all along. That's pretty much the reason why I've been calling for players like Sean Taylor (RIP), Michael Huff, Brandon Merriweather, Kenny Phillips, LaRon Landry. A good safety can change a games momentum in the blink of an eye. Put Ed Reed, Bob Sanders or Troy Polumalu with the Detroit Lions and I bet they change their defensive rankings up 10 spots. I'm not yet sold on Goldson, I doubt really anyone is, but if he manages some big plays this upcoming season, I'll lay off the FS position....for now.


I definitely remember being a huge supporter of all of them. Outside of Taylor, however, none of these guys were the elite prospects safety-deprived fans made them out to be. Even Landry was widely considered a solid but not elite safety until he ran the 40. This is all going to change this year however with Berry (who I prefer), Mays, and 2 first round picks that could be used for moving up into the top 10

Think about it, the last two times we were in the playoffs we had who....Zack Bronson and Tony Parrish. Seems like whenever we have a good safety or a safety playing good we into the playoffs. Sure you can mention the 2003 season when Parrish had 9 picks, but there was a lot more drama going on that year than just our defense needing a safety. But like said if Goldson steps up this upcoming season, I'll layoff the position for now, but if he turns in a average season, I don't care, we cannot pass on Eric Berry or Taylor Mays, something needs to be done about the FS position already.

If Goldson's not great (no reason to believe he will be) then we need to go for Berry or Mays. If Goldson is great, then we need to go for Berry to replace the 1-dimensional run stopper Lewis, and have a ridiculous safety combination.