Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Which exactly proves the point that longest run statistics has little to no correlation on how fast a RB is. Does it not? Gore is where he should be, other guys like Sproles and McCoy who are regarded as fast runners are lagging in the rankings while others such as Turner and McGahee are near the top.
Lol long run stats do not correlate with speed? Are you joking? All that those stats prove is that Frank Gore has more speed than anyone around here is giving him credit for. The top running backs in the NFL had on average 9 runs of 20+ yards. Gore was right there. The fastest running backs in the NFL averaged a season long run of around 50 yards. Frank Gore was right there. I really don't see what is so complicated about that comparison. All that it proves is that Frank Gore's speed is translating to production on the field. Really who cares about anything else? Honestly Frank Gore's consistency has spoiled a lot of 49er fans.
Oh yeah, if you ever want to explain your mysterious field position argument please be my guest
This is the last I'm going to write on this subject.
No, I'm not joking. Long runs have minimal correlation with speed. They are moreso due to vision, agility, tackle evading ability, o-line blocking etc. especially in a running back who has the running style of Gore. How often are you going to have the situation where you have a clear straight-ahead path to daylight? Very rarely. Sure speed helps, but at least in my opinion, it's by far the least necessary skillset.
Using longest run statistics to show that Gore is has premier speed, which is the primary evidence of your argument is also flawed. I explained why before but I'll repeat again. You're using the fact that Gore's longest run is at pace with the supposed fastest in the league (Peterson, Sproles, Johnson etc.) to support the claim that Gore is as fast as them. The fastest running backs in the league averaged ~50 yards as their longest run which was good for approximately 19th out of all running backs. Again what does that tell you? It clearly shows that it's a tenuous statistic from which to draw a conclusion of a running back's speed. Moreover
, Frank Gore clearly does not belong in the same class of speed as Peterson or Johnson, which only further proves the point that the statistic is flawed.
Frank Gore is known as a "power back" around the league for a good reason. His speed is average and too often a DB is able to close onto him from behind. His long runs are primarily due to his vision and power rather than pure speed. This also also been suggested by several poster here as well. If you want to show that Gore has above average speed, then please use some other metric rather than longest runs. I have already showed how it is flawed.
As for my field position argument, on closer thought I acknowledged that it was a weak premise which is why I decided not to further elaborate.