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JTO Eating Crow Thread!!!

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I'm encouraged by the history: Green, Warner, Bulger, Kitna. Every shaggy dog QB project that Martz has taken on has been productive. Not one of these guys failed to put up good numbers. Martz will make our offense produce and JTO will make a lot of "experts" eat their words.
Alright, save me some space on this bandwagon. I'm officially with JTO till the end.
JTO! JTO! JTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  1. Humility
  2. Confidence
  3. Mastery
  4. Ability
  5. Leadership
  6. No excuses
  7. Focus
  8. Expectations
  9. Risk Taker
Win Or loose I'm OFFICIALY on the Bandwagon, Give me some Kool-aid I'm Drinking it.
Originally posted by tmpluff:
Win Or loose I'm OFFICIALY on the Bandwagon, Give me some Kool-aid I'm Drinking it.



Risk Taker and ability alone should have gotten you all on this bandwaggon. I mean, it's not like we have much for him to compete against.
Originally posted by Joecool:
I promise you all: JTO will NOT disappoint.

Losers do not have the following characteristics, winners do:

  1. Humility
  2. Confidence
  3. Mastery
  4. Ability
  5. Leadership
  6. No excuses
  7. Focus
  8. Expectations
  9. Risk Taker


You just don't see people with these qualities fail very often. He was a journeyman who didn't get to show what he can do or was just in a situation where he was not needed be it financially or behind a proven player. Martz didn't even know what he could do until he actually saw him in extensive time this offseason.

I guess 6 years of being a winner on the bench finally paid off. Seriously, lets wait till Sunday and beyond before we do this crap.
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I promise you all: JTO will NOT disappoint.

Losers do not have the following characteristics, winners do:

  1. Humility
  2. Confidence
  3. Mastery
  4. Ability
  5. Leadership
  6. No excuses
  7. Focus
  8. Expectations
  9. Risk Taker


You just don't see people with these qualities fail very often. He was a journeyman who didn't get to show what he can do or was just in a situation where he was not needed be it financially or behind a proven player. Martz didn't even know what he could do until he actually saw him in extensive time this offseason.

I guess 6 years of being a winner on the bench finally paid off. Seriously, lets wait till Sunday and beyond before we do this crap.

thank you! Honestly I hope the guy does great, but the fact remains WE DON'T KNOW YET! Let's just sit back and enjoy the ride, and if after a few games it's still rollin', then great. But of it crashes then alot of you are gonna get burned.

[ Edited by sincalniner on Sep 5, 2008 at 05:36:32 ]
I can't believe all this graveling over a Scrub who has never mustered the talent or Nuts to start for one of the 32 teams in the NFL.

I see comments like "this team was going to develope him but some (insert unproven college QB name here) fell into there laps so they cut him" bla bla bla.

Until I see something on the field in a Regular season game, I think Nolan is an idiot and has runied the confidence of a Young, VERY high paid QB. Smith so far in his carrer has the "David Carr" syndrome (been knocked on his arse so many times he has nightmares), not too mention only 1 good OC,an injury and a coach who pretty much gave up on him.

Either way I know Smith is a Man and he needs to step up and deal with it and play some ball, but I would rather go down giving Smith a chance then burn like some fools with 2 scrubs under center like JT and Hill!!

I hope I am eating crow in December
Originally posted by 9ermadmanagain:
I can't believe all this graveling over a Scrub who has never mustered the talent or Nuts to start for one of the 32 teams in the NFL.

I see comments like "this team was going to develope him but some (insert unproven college QB name here) fell into there laps so they cut him" bla bla bla.

Until I see something on the field in a Regular season game, I think Nolan is an idiot and has runied the confidence of a Young, VERY high paid QB. Smith so far in his carrer has the "David Carr" syndrome (been knocked on his arse so many times he has nightmares), not too mention only 1 good OC,an injury and a coach who pretty much gave up on him.

Either way I know Smith is a Man and he needs to step up and deal with it and play some ball, but I would rather go down giving Smith a chance then burn like some fools with 2 scrubs under center like JT and Hill!!

I hope I am eating crow in December

I'm really the only one putting myself on the line saying this guy will excel. If others feel the same join me now. The entire point of taking risks is to back something. I am not playing politician on this one because I believe in his attributes that he brings. I believe in his skill set. I know my QBs and if he's a bust, then you won't ever see me comment on any QBs from now on except for cheering one on AFTER he does something well.

JTO will make his mistakes but he will do more good than bad overall. You guys can do the wait-and-see and then jump on and you will be welcome on this bandwagon as we are all fans of the same team.

I'm not being overly excited for no reason. There are attributes I look for in a QB and JTO has them. I back that no matter what.

I'm sorry, but if you still think Smith has it, then I can say the same comments you say about JTO supporters to you. All in all, I also feel that the only reason why Hill isn't #2 is because of Smith's contract. I have always felt this and there is a reason why Smith won't be here if he is not the starter and Hill will.

[ Edited by Joecool on Sep 4, 2008 at 18:10:45 ]
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I'm a JTO guy officially. I would so much rather watch him put up good numbers and take some risks instead of taking the "safe" route and throwing it away all the time. Once he shakes off the jitters of being a starter and experiences the trust and belief of his teammates, he can seriously give us a shot at being significantly better on the offensive side of the ball.
Originally posted by sincalniner:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I promise you all: JTO will NOT disappoint.

Losers do not have the following characteristics, winners do:

  1. Humility
  2. Confidence
  3. Mastery
  4. Ability
  5. Leadership
  6. No excuses
  7. Focus
  8. Expectations
  9. Risk Taker


You just don't see people with these qualities fail very often. He was a journeyman who didn't get to show what he can do or was just in a situation where he was not needed be it financially or behind a proven player. Martz didn't even know what he could do until he actually saw him in extensive time this offseason.

I guess 6 years of being a winner on the bench finally paid off. Seriously, lets wait till Sunday and beyond before we do this crap.

thank you! Honestly I hope the guy does great, but the ca t remains WE DON'T KNOW YET! Let's just sit back and enjoy the ride, and if after a few games it's still rollin', then great. But of it crashes then alot of you are gonna get burned.

post of the day. he's still a questionmark. let him prove he's atleast decent first before you crown him
I'm with ya, JC...Martz knew JTO had the "it" factor from what he saw in Detroit. It's very hard to get spot play here and there and shine. When J.T. did get to play a lot in NFL-E, he was very good. People are quick to point out "that's not the NFL", and they're right, it's not. However, I saw quite a few of his games, and a couple of things stood out. One was his command of the huddle and overall leadership...his guys believed in him. Another was his toughness...he'd get knocked down...or maybe make a bad play, but would quickly bounce back and make a play that'd knock your socks off. He's a survivor...and all his many stops haven't diminished his desire to show that he's got what it takes to win in this league. If anything, it's only sharpened his edge. J.T.'s got fire...which is something we haven't seen in a Niner QB since Garcia left. I'm happy for him...he's worked hard to become our starter...and I'll root like he** for the guy.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 9ermadmanagain:
I can't believe all this graveling over a Scrub who has never mustered the talent or Nuts to start for one of the 32 teams in the NFL.

I see comments like "this team was going to develope him but some (insert unproven college QB name here) fell into there laps so they cut him" bla bla bla.

Until I see something on the field in a Regular season game, I think Nolan is an idiot and has runied the confidence of a Young, VERY high paid QB. Smith so far in his carrer has the "David Carr" syndrome (been knocked on his arse so many times he has nightmares), not too mention only 1 good OC,an injury and a coach who pretty much gave up on him.

Either way I know Smith is a Man and he needs to step up and deal with it and play some ball, but I would rather go down giving Smith a chance then burn like some fools with 2 scrubs under center like JT and Hill!!

I hope I am eating crow in December

I'm really the only one putting myself on the line saying this guy will excel. If others feel the same join me now. The entire point of taking risks is to back something. I am not playing politician on this one because I believe in his attributes that he brings. I believe in his skill set. I know my QBs and if he's a bust, then you won't ever see me comment on any QBs from now on except for cheering one on AFTER he does something well.

JTO will make his mistakes but he will do more good than bad overall. You guys can do the wait-and-see and then jump on and you will be welcome on this bandwagon as we are all fans of the same team.

I'm not being overly excited for no reason. There are attributes I look for in a QB and JTO has them. I back that no matter what.

I'm sorry, but if you still think Smith has it, then I can say the same comments you say about JTO supporters to you. All in all, I also feel that the only reason why Hill isn't #2 is because of Smith's contract. I have always felt this and there is a reason why Smith won't be here if he is not the starter and Hill will.

Although you have definately taken the control of the driver's seat on this bandwagon... I have been pickin' fights on behalf of JTO since the day he took his first rep in TC (just ask Lambda). Up to this point, I have generally refrained from making predictions on how I think he will perform just because of how much s**t it would have stirred up among the Smith supporters... But seeing as the masses are now beginning to get behind him, I'll come out of the shadows:

17/28 314 yds 2 TD 1 INT - 49ers win: 27-21
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Another scouting report from JTO's NFLE time on Dan Brown's blog:

Quote:
O’Sullivan’s last starting job was for the Frankfurt Galaxy of the NFL Europe in 2007. So I went looking for someone from a Galaxy far, far away …

“He expects great plays out of his receivers, out of his linemen and out of himself,’’ said Jamie Petrowski, one of O’Sullivan’s leading receivers with Frankfurt. “He holds everyone accountable.”

O’Sullivan was NFL Europa’s offensive co-MVP after leading the league with a 103.1 passer rating. Petrowski, a tight end, caught 32 of his passes for 474 yards (14.8 average) and five touchdowns.

“He was a very accurate passer. He would put the ball right to where it made it easy for the receiver to make a big play,’’ said Petrowski. “He was a quarterback that always made the correct reads.”

NFL Europe ceased operations on June 29, 2007. But many players through the NFL used it as a minor league of sorts, a haven for honing their skills. Petrowski is now on the practice squad for the Tennessee Titans. I called him this week for a story I’m writing about O’Sullivan. I wanted a scouting report.

Petrowski’s description sounded remarkably like what the 49ers liked about O’Sullivan this summer.

“He was a competitive guy who could make something out of nothing, even if it was a shovel pass,’’ he said. “He could run with the ball, make plays with his feet, but it wasn’t like he would take off running down field. He would run to buy time for something else to open up.”

During our short conversation, Petrowski used the phrase “holds people accountable” four times in describing O’Sullivan. He said he liked the way the quarterback responded to adversity and insisted that teammates rally around him. “Every game, there is something that doesn’t go right,’’ Petrowski said. “He’d respond by pulling people back in and saying, ‘That’s OK. Let’s make a big play.’’’

O’Sullivan also played for Frankfurt to the World Bowl XII, going 6-3 during a starter during the regular season.

He talked about his experience overseas this week.

“It was great football for me. The quarterback position is something that you can’t simulate in practice,’’ he said. “Going out there and being the starter every week, having a team rely on you to play well and give them a chance to win. That’s what that league did for me. I cherish that opportunity.”

If nothing else, playing for the Frankfurt Galaxy may have prepared O’Sullivan for the frustrations inherent in recent 49ers offenses. Scan a list of the Galaxy’s receiving stats for 2007 and – at the very bottom – is a familiar name.

Rashaun Woods had two catches for 12 yards.
Originally posted by XNap:
Another scouting report from JTO's NFLE time on Dan Brown's blog:

Quote:
O’Sullivan’s last starting job was for the Frankfurt Galaxy of the NFL Europe in 2007. So I went looking for someone from a Galaxy far, far away …

“He expects great plays out of his receivers, out of his linemen and out of himself,’’ said Jamie Petrowski, one of O’Sullivan’s leading receivers with Frankfurt. “He holds everyone accountable.”

O’Sullivan was NFL Europa’s offensive co-MVP after leading the league with a 103.1 passer rating. Petrowski, a tight end, caught 32 of his passes for 474 yards (14.8 average) and five touchdowns.

“He was a very accurate passer. He would put the ball right to where it made it easy for the receiver to make a big play,’’ said Petrowski. “He was a quarterback that always made the correct reads.”

NFL Europe ceased operations on June 29, 2007. But many players through the NFL used it as a minor league of sorts, a haven for honing their skills. Petrowski is now on the practice squad for the Tennessee Titans. I called him this week for a story I’m writing about O’Sullivan. I wanted a scouting report.

Petrowski’s description sounded remarkably like what the 49ers liked about O’Sullivan this summer.

“He was a competitive guy who could make something out of nothing, even if it was a shovel pass,’’ he said. “He could run with the ball, make plays with his feet, but it wasn’t like he would take off running down field. He would run to buy time for something else to open up.”

During our short conversation, Petrowski used the phrase “holds people accountable” four times in describing O’Sullivan. He said he liked the way the quarterback responded to adversity and insisted that teammates rally around him. “Every game, there is something that doesn’t go right,’’ Petrowski said. “He’d respond by pulling people back in and saying, ‘That’s OK. Let’s make a big play.’’’

O’Sullivan also played for Frankfurt to the World Bowl XII, going 6-3 during a starter during the regular season.

He talked about his experience overseas this week.

“It was great football for me. The quarterback position is something that you can’t simulate in practice,’’ he said. “Going out there and being the starter every week, having a team rely on you to play well and give them a chance to win. That’s what that league did for me. I cherish that opportunity.”

If nothing else, playing for the Frankfurt Galaxy may have prepared O’Sullivan for the frustrations inherent in recent 49ers offenses. Scan a list of the Galaxy’s receiving stats for 2007 and – at the very bottom – is a familiar name.

Rashaun Woods had two catches for 12 yards.

Playing in the NFLE is not even like playing in the CFL. Its a big step below. Seriously the AFL is a better league and training ground. Just ask Kurt Warner.