I honestly have little to no excitement about any of the players projected at 2 or around it. But I definitely don't want Solomon Thomas, or any of the qb's.
Thomas just seems to much like a tweener. What would he do? Play the Leo on base downs and then slide into the three technique on pass downs? Idk. He just doesn't strike me as a all-pro game changer type player.
All the qb's suck in this draft.
best case scenario is we trade down because somebody gets desperate for a qb's.
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Mar 24, 2017 at 4:40 PM
- philosoraptor
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Mar 24, 2017 at 9:00 PM
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Leonard Fournette.
That is not an indictment of him, I think he's going to be a fantastic player. Its more due to where we are as a team. With so many holes to fill, I don't see the value in selecting a RB at this point. I can see the Ezekiel Elliott argument, and he was great last year. At the same time, Jordan Howard went 5th rd and ran for 1,300 yards at 5.2 yards a carry. This is not all that uncommon. RB is a easy position to find value and production.
That is not an indictment of him, I think he's going to be a fantastic player. Its more due to where we are as a team. With so many holes to fill, I don't see the value in selecting a RB at this point. I can see the Ezekiel Elliott argument, and he was great last year. At the same time, Jordan Howard went 5th rd and ran for 1,300 yards at 5.2 yards a carry. This is not all that uncommon. RB is a easy position to find value and production.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Mar 24, 2017 at 9:01 PM ]
Mar 25, 2017 at 6:47 AM
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Kizer- I can't find it in me (even after watching him some more) to get excited about This guy. I don't know what Lynch sees. Maybe he's nice to take on a date, but he isn't accurate, and doesn't throw with anticipation a lot - he seems to have to see the receiver is open before he throws it. I don't know guys....
Mar 25, 2017 at 9:18 AM
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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
I honestly have little to no excitement about any of the players projected at 2 or around it. But I definitely don't want Solomon Thomas, or any of the qb's.
Thomas just seems to much like a tweener. What would he do? Play the Leo on base downs and then slide into the three technique on pass downs? Idk. He just doesn't strike me as a all-pro game changer type player.
All the qb's suck in this draft.
best case scenario is we trade down because somebody gets desperate for a qb's.
Ahm....you know rush the passer, stop the run. Not that we really need those things since our defense was so good last year.
Mar 25, 2017 at 11:55 AM
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In talking about what position does he play and how well does he fit it. In this current scheme I think he fits best at the same spot Buckner will play. Yes he is a great run defender, but I just don't see it as a passrusher. He just strikes me as a guy who will be a good pro, just not a perennial probowler, all-pro, game-wrecker type player. I think that bowl game and combine has really blow up his stock. I'd rather trade down and grab a true elephant passrusher, or an offensive weapon.Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by philosoraptor:I honestly have little to no excitement about any of the players projected at 2 or around it. But I definitely don't want Solomon Thomas, or any of the qb's.
Thomas just seems to much like a tweener. What would he do? Play the Leo on base downs and then slide into the three technique on pass downs? Idk. He just doesn't strike me as a all-pro game changer type player.
All the qb's suck in this draft.
best case scenario is we trade down because somebody gets desperate for a qb's.
Ahm....you know rush the passer, stop the run. Not that we really need those things since our defense was so good last year.
Mar 25, 2017 at 12:23 PM
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1. Any of the QB's - duh!
2. Reuben Foster - too high even if the Niners have a need
3. Leonard Fournette - this is a deep draft class at RB.
2. Reuben Foster - too high even if the Niners have a need
3. Leonard Fournette - this is a deep draft class at RB.
Nov 29, 2018 at 12:16 AM
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TFW when you called it.Originally posted by philosoraptor:In talking about what position does he play and how well does he fit it. In this current scheme I think he fits best at the same spot Buckner will play. Yes he is a great run defender, but I just don't see it as a passrusher. He just strikes me as a guy who will be a good pro, just not a perennial probowler, all-pro, game-wrecker type player. I think that bowl game and combine has really blow up his stock. I'd rather trade down and grab a true elephant passrusher, or an offensive weapon.Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by philosoraptor:I honestly have little to no excitement about any of the players projected at 2 or around it. But I definitely don't want Solomon Thomas, or any of the qb's.
Thomas just seems to much like a tweener. What would he do? Play the Leo on base downs and then slide into the three technique on pass downs? Idk. He just doesn't strike me as a all-pro game changer type player.
All the qb's suck in this draft.
best case scenario is we trade down because somebody gets desperate for a qb's.
Ahm....you know rush the passer, stop the run. Not that we really need those things since our defense was so good last year.
Nov 29, 2018 at 9:24 AM
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Originally posted by Jasta:
Originally posted by Lurker:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Originally posted by Jasta:
If we traded down to the teens and got McCaffrey I'd be more than happy. Drafting Fournette at #2 feels like buying a sweet muscle car when what you really need is a job, a new girlfriend and somewhere to live.
LOL, that is funny. Personally, I hope for a trade down too with a handful of sweet picks in return.
What's funny about it? It's an analogy that has zero to do with the truth of the situation.
Zero? Harsh. I think your fake news detector is up a little high... an analogy that has zero to do with the truth of the situation would be:
"Drafting Fournette is like hitting a mongoose with a tyre iron, you can't see his tears but at least you get ice cream."
How did I miss this gold two years ago!
Nov 29, 2018 at 1:21 PM
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I think the Alabams DTs this year are overrated..
Nov 29, 2018 at 3:03 PM
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Originally posted by 9moon:I think the Alabams DTs this year are overrated..
Why? I think both are amazing prospects, and I actually think Raekwon is underhyped
Nov 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Reuben Foster.
There are other guys, but I can find a way to cope with those.
Basically every concern and fear I had about Reuben during the draft process manifested in 2 years in the league.
[ Edited by Heroism on Nov 29, 2018 at 3:11 PM ]
Nov 29, 2018 at 4:25 PM
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Originally posted by philosoraptor:TFW when you called it.Originally posted by philosoraptor:In talking about what position does he play and how well does he fit it. In this current scheme I think he fits best at the same spot Buckner will play. Yes he is a great run defender, but I just don't see it as a passrusher. He just strikes me as a guy who will be a good pro, just not a perennial probowler, all-pro, game-wrecker type player. I think that bowl game and combine has really blow up his stock. I'd rather trade down and grab a true elephant passrusher, or an offensive weapon.Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by philosoraptor:I honestly have little to no excitement about any of the players projected at 2 or around it. But I definitely don't want Solomon Thomas, or any of the qb's.
Thomas just seems to much like a tweener. What would he do? Play the Leo on base downs and then slide into the three technique on pass downs? Idk. He just doesn't strike me as a all-pro game changer type player.
All the qb's suck in this draft.
best case scenario is we trade down because somebody gets desperate for a qb's.
Ahm....you know rush the passer, stop the run. Not that we really need those things since our defense was so good last year.
You were right. I figured by drafting him it ensured we had a clear plan for him. Hasn't been that way so far and Sully definitely underwhelmed as a pass rusher. I'm not seeing the same guy I saw on film. Sucky.
Nov 29, 2018 at 6:10 PM
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Don't tear your rotator cuff patting yourself on the back........
Nov 29, 2018 at 7:47 PM
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Originally posted by FL9er:Don't tear your rotator cuff patting yourself on the back........
Too late.
Nov 29, 2018 at 7:48 PM
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Do not want Bosa....
NEED Bosa.
NEED Bosa.