NYniner85 pointless mock 2017

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Anything could happen. However there has only been 1 safety since 1992 taken in the top 5.. and that was the great Sean Taylor. So call me skeptical that a safety will go that high. Maybe 2017 will be that once in a generation exception.

Eric berry was drafted at 5 like I said maybe it's not Hooker but a DB like the others I've mentioned.

right. I stand corrected. 2 all time greats at safety were taken in top 5 since 92. Taylor and Berry were both taken 5th. Im just not sure Hooker, Adams, or Peppers are in that class but we shall see.

I like this one. Mike Williams and McMillan would be good picks. Arrows would definitely be up for us if this happens.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Okay so I kinda wanted to make a mock before we figured out who's the GM/HC is....if I was Jed this is who I'd pick and this is who our FO would go after in the off season (maybe) lol.

GM-Wolf
HC- Josh McDaniels
OC-Randy Fictner (thanks Willisfn4life) current QB coach in Pitt
DC-Mike Vrabel current LB coach in Texas

Cut/leave:

Brooks
Bethea
Brock
Kap
Martin
Patton
Ellington (fights for a roster spot)

Resign:

Tiller
Kerley
Dawson
Dorsey

FA:

Bouye CB- ties with Vrabel
J.C. Tretter C- battles Kilgore and has ties with Wolf
Wolf would love to go after Lang but they won't let him walk so we get another stud in Kevin Zeitler OG to play OG... line is looking nice now!
Brandon Williams NT- This will be our biggest FA signing he's gonna command a lot more then people think and Baltimore might not be able to afford it.

TRADE* We give NE our 34th pick this yr and a conditional 2nd in 2018 for Jimmy Garoppolo QB- Bill is a d******d but he can't turn down that type of draft capital AND he get's to move him to the NFC West to his boy Josh PLUS he's not flushing Jimmy G's career down the toilet by throwing him to the waste land of QBs in Cleveland.

2017 draft:

1st:First of if Myles is there he's the pick no question IF he's not we trade with the Jets who move ahead of the Bears...we get their 1st, 2nd, 4th & 2nd in 2018.

So with that 6th overall pick we get Mike Williams WR- We finally get our #1 WR to pair up with our new young QB dude is a mismatch nightmare.

2nd (jets)-Raekwon McMillan ILB- This is for Vrabel who coached at OSU and is alumi, if he's all about him I'm cool with it. McMillan is a tackling machine and a Butkus finalist. He will have to work on the coverage skills to be a three down back but we have Ray Ray as well.

TRADE* move back into the bottom of the 2nd give up 3rd and 4th from the Jets*

2nd Ryan Anderson OLB- Dude doesn't get enough credit for what he does on that Bama team. he's great on the edge and solid in run D. He's ferocious in the pass rush as well. Much better version of Brooks.

4th-Jeremy McNichols RB- This might be a reach (might be gone), but this guy can do it all...he would be a great weapon for Josh. He ran for 1,700 yards 23 TDs this yr and is a great pass catch back. This would be a great RB combo with Hyde who would benefit from this.

4th(comp)-Ryan Switzer WR- slippy slot WR with great route running skills...that sounds like a Wolf/McDaniels special

5th-Davis Webb QB- For the love of god let's start grooming QBs we finally have a staff in place to do it! Has all the measurables just very raw

5th (from Washington)-Ejuan Price OLB- drops because lack of measurables dude is a football player and a team will be very happen to have him. He battles Tank and should win out...we have a good set of young pass rushers for a while now.

We have a like 4 other picks between the 6th and 7th rds go BPA late in the draft.

What ya'll think? Like I said it's a pointless mock cause we don't know who's gonna be the GM/HC, but fun to think about it

The best I've read on here. Good job

Only bones to pick would be:

1. The price for Jimmy G. Got a feeling belicheck is gonna fleece some team's gm for a haul of picks. It will be a good first test for the gm/HC relationship. McDaniels might scream for Jimmy, but the new GM Wolf might "baalke" at the idea of giving up too much draft capital. Gonna be interesting seeing who leverages for power. It ain't gonna be holding hands. One person is going to make the decisions. Which leadse to the second bone.

2. Am I the only one that questions McDaniels leadership? I think he is a great OC, but to be the top dog, I just don't know. I don't see qualities that scream fearless leader. Maybe this has partly to do with his stint in Denver, but he does not have strong leadership traits, and I question his ability to motivate and analyze players. His Xs and Os are innovative and adaptive, but wasn't Kelly also this way? We had a McDaniels type with Kelly and it didn't work.

Either way, fun mock to read. Looking forward to more.

If this is how things play out than I'd say that the 49ers are headed the right direction.

BET YOUR BOY WANT SOME MORE, ninja!



I'll say it again, if future performs on the opener we'll have a .500 record or better

I would also keep brooks and add another safety. If Berry is a FA, then he should be our guy, but they may franchise him and let poe go.

MIKE WILLIAMS TOP 5

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

Only bones to pick would be:

1. The price for Jimmy G. Got a feeling belicheck is gonna fleece some team's gm for a haul of picks. It will be a good first test for the gm/HC relationship. McDaniels might scream for Jimmy, but the new GM Wolf might "baalke" at the idea of giving up too much draft capital. Gonna be interesting seeing who leverages for power. It ain't gonna be holding hands. One person is going to make the decisions. Which leadse to the second bone.

2. Am I the only one that questions McDaniels leadership? I think he is a great OC, but to be the top dog, I just don't know. I don't see qualities that scream fearless leader. Maybe this has partly to do with his stint in Denver, but he does not have strong leadership traits, and I question his ability to motivate and analyze players. His Xs and Os are innovative and adaptive, but wasn't Kelly also this way? We had a McDaniels type with Kelly and it didn't work.

Either way, fun mock to read. Looking forward to more.

Someone could offer the moon for him and if so then the mock is f**ked lol. If we land McDaniels then I think it's a strong possibility he's the qb though.

I think he'd be a fine HC and we'd be lucky to land him but that's a whole other topic

Thanks man

Originally posted by pdizo916:

I would also keep brooks and add another safety. If Berry is a FA, then he should be our guy, but they may franchise him and let poe go.

Not keeping Brooks at his current salary especially if we draft two pass rushers, no way Berry is leaving thats a pipe dream I was trying to be somewhat realistic a safety could be added in the draft but in my mock (which I should have stated) Ward is FS Reid is SS and Robinson, Bouye, Redmond are our starting DBs.

Originally posted by YungAce:

MIKE WILLIAMS TOP 5

Just maybe if so Corey Davis it is...still think Titans go DB

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Only bones to pick would be:

1. The price for Jimmy G. Got a feeling belicheck is gonna fleece some team's gm for a haul of picks. It will be a good first test for the gm/HC relationship. McDaniels might scream for Jimmy, but the new GM Wolf might "baalke" at the idea of giving up too much draft capital. Gonna be interesting seeing who leverages for power. It ain't gonna be holding hands. One person is going to make the decisions. Which leadse to the second bone.

2. Am I the only one that questions McDaniels leadership? I think he is a great OC, but to be the top dog, I just don't know. I don't see qualities that scream fearless leader. Maybe this has partly to do with his stint in Denver, but he does not have strong leadership traits, and I question his ability to motivate and analyze players. His Xs and Os are innovative and adaptive, but wasn't Kelly also this way? We had a McDaniels type with Kelly and it didn't work.

Either way, fun mock to read. Looking forward to more.

What in the hell has Jimmy G. done to warrant such a high price?

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Only bones to pick would be:

1. The price for Jimmy G. Got a feeling belicheck is gonna fleece some team's gm for a haul of picks. It will be a good first test for the gm/HC relationship. McDaniels might scream for Jimmy, but the new GM Wolf might "baalke" at the idea of giving up too much draft capital. Gonna be interesting seeing who leverages for power. It ain't gonna be holding hands. One person is going to make the decisions. Which leadse to the second bone.

2. Am I the only one that questions McDaniels leadership? I think he is a great OC, but to be the top dog, I just don't know. I don't see qualities that scream fearless leader. Maybe this has partly to do with his stint in Denver, but he does not have strong leadership traits, and I question his ability to motivate and analyze players. His Xs and Os are innovative and adaptive, but wasn't Kelly also this way? We had a McDaniels type with Kelly and it didn't work.

Either way, fun mock to read. Looking forward to more.

The price for JG will likely be a 2nd round pick and a future 3rd round pick because he demonstrated success (briefly) in the NFL. The Alex Smith deal was two 2nd rounders for a proven commodity and that has actually turned out to be a steal for Kansas City, so if you are sure he's the guy then go get him. With MacDaniels there the fit for JG is great. He knows the scheme already and has proven he's ready to start in the NFL so it would ease the transition the 49ers would have to make. Then if the 49ers were to go WR in round 1, suddenly the offense has some building blocks.

As far as his leadership nobody really knows except for the players. From everything I've read it sure seems like he has settled down appreciably from his early 30's and is ready to take another shot at being the top dog. Consider the alternative. McVay? Joseph? Shanahan? Maybe, but they are this years versions of Josh MacDaniels who may flame out just as he did in Denver. What I know is that he has an endorsement from Tom Brady and that actually means something.

The 49ers are in such bad shape right now that it is going to take a few years anyways. I would rather have a guy like McDaniels with upside who comes from a winning program (Belichek wins) with a winning culture who has the benefit of insight into his previous shortcomings as a head coach. McVay or Shanahan may turn out to be terrific coaches, but my gut is telling me to go with the guy who's got more experience and who is from a winning program.

I still don't see why we would cut Brock he's on a cheap deal at worst we could put him back in the nickel!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YungAce:

MIKE WILLIAMS TOP 5

Just maybe if so Corey Davis it is...still think Titans go DB

I have a hard time seeing Mike Williams going top 5. . I think he probably runs a 4.5ish 40 @ combine. and for that reason I don't think he goes before 5... He scares me as a prospect, do I think he'll be good? yes but you don't take good WR in the top 12 picks.. if he runs mid 4.4 he goes top 5. he doesn't play that fast tho. I could see him being the third best wr from this class when all's said and done... If I were a GM. (which I'm waiting on Jed to call about my resume at this moment) I'd take Corey Davis and John Ross before Mike that's not a knock I just think they are that good, this WR class might be one of the best I've seen in some time... Kupp stats are insane i like him too..