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I think, we should pass to Quartback.
Dec 21, 2016 at 5:48 PM
- Ryanoceros
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I don't see Chip passing on Watson at 2 and I personally would like to draft Watson. I see him starting from day 1. The Browns desperately need a QB, but us on the other hand could potentially Kaep for another year and wait for next years draft class, which is filled with QB talent. Watson is very good, but I could see us holding off for another year and go with the sexy pick in Myles Garrett (if available). This dude would make an immediate impact on our defense. We desperately need a pass-rusher. Chip could work with anyone he likes at QB.
Dec 22, 2016 at 10:29 PM
- bigwads
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by bigwads:You guys should put resumes in to the Browns and Jaguars.
The point is you don't take a QB at #2 when the dude is not worthy of the pick. No one is saying you never take a QB in the first round.
Derp who says he's not you? What has he shown you that he's not worth a top 10 pick?
People thought Big Ben flacco drew Brees aaron Rogers Brett Favre weren't top picks either.
People were right. None of those guys were top 10 picks. Brees was the last pick in the 2nd round Rodgers was the 24th pick even though many people thought he'd be the #1 pick. Favre was a 2nd round pick. Flacco was the 18th pick. Roethlisberger was the 11th pick even though many thought he'd go top 10. The Giants almost took Roethlisberger at 4, but the Chargers wanted Rivers.
Dec 23, 2016 at 12:34 AM
- 49ersGiantspride
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Tough to say who's not worth a top pick right now, last year at this point Wentz was a second rounder, a couple years before that Derek Carr was considered a first rounder, s**t happens. I remember people freaking out when we drafted Aldon Smith with the 7th pick and saying we reached, sometimes it works out, all this bickering over who's worth/not worth a top pick is pointless right now because we won't truly know until the combine at least.
That being said it's completely dumb to ignore the quarterback position, every year the class is supposedly weak. With the exception of 2013 the QB's have at least been decent, 2011 was supposed to be a weak class yet Dalton, Newton and for a time Kap did work. If we can't draft Garrett, then go for Trubisky or Watson, the ideal situation would be Garrett and one of Watson or Trubisky slide and we trade back into first to draft them.
That being said it's completely dumb to ignore the quarterback position, every year the class is supposedly weak. With the exception of 2013 the QB's have at least been decent, 2011 was supposed to be a weak class yet Dalton, Newton and for a time Kap did work. If we can't draft Garrett, then go for Trubisky or Watson, the ideal situation would be Garrett and one of Watson or Trubisky slide and we trade back into first to draft them.
Dec 23, 2016 at 8:59 AM
- BuZzB05
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We should grab to Quartback by Josh Rosen UCLA at 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/snackpackfootball.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/2018-nfl-mock-draft/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
https://www.google.com/amp/s/snackpackfootball.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/2018-nfl-mock-draft/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:02 AM
- BuZzB05
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Originally posted by njninersfan420:Originally posted by BuZzB05:I believe other team will draft Deshaun Watson, Desmond Kizer and Mitchell Trubisky for the 10 to 25 top or 2nd round.. we should pass to Watson, Kizer and Trubisky at #2 picks.
Buzz you're probably my favorite poster, ur the fn man. Gonna have to disagree with you here tho broseph.
Alright bro. Thanks for fans of my post.
I wonder why. Cleveland Browns don't have any quartback right now. Why Cleveland Browns will pass on Watson and Trubisky number one. Cleveland should draft the top QB. But they will pass on QB. Smh..
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Dec 23, 2016 at 9:06 AM ]
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:03 AM
- pdizo916
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Buzz B gets it. I wonder why most of the zone doesn't....
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:04 AM
- BuZzB05
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by BuZzB05:Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:I disagree buzz, I think we should draft to Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson.
I think, Trubisky is probably same to Carson Wentz. And I think Watson is probably same to Jameis Winston.
If Garrett is gone #1 then we should trade down for two of 1st round or trade down for 1st round and 2nd round and next year plus 1st round. Cleveland did received 1st round and 2nd round 2016 and plus 1st round 2017. We should do it.
Forget the black, white comparisons. How is this a bad thing?
Why are you judge me and critical me? .. I love the colors no matter what. I am looking for skill players and wins games for 49ers team. That's it.
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:08 AM
- BuZzB05
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Originally posted by Andra:Originally posted by BuZzB05:I think, Trubisky is probably same to Carson Wentz. And I think Watson is probably same to Jameis Winston.
If Garrett is gone #1 then we should trade down for two of 1st round or trade down for 1st round and 2nd round and next year plus 1st round. Cleveland did received 1st round and 2nd round 2016 and plus 1st round 2017. We should do it.
The Cleveland browns model. Can't miss
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:11 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by BuZzB05:
We should grab to Quartback by Josh Rosen UCLA at 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/snackpackfootball.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/2018-nfl-mock-draft/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
Who's to say he is any better than what is available this year? People hyped him up after his freshman year but he was largely average this season and sometimes worse when he was healthy. He's a good prospect but far from being a sure thing.
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
Tough to say who's not worth a top pick right now, last year at this point Wentz was a second rounder, a couple years before that Derek Carr was considered a first rounder, s**t happens. I remember people freaking out when we drafted Aldon Smith with the 7th pick and saying we reached, sometimes it works out, all this bickering over who's worth/not worth a top pick is pointless right now because we won't truly know until the combine at least.
That being said it's completely dumb to ignore the quarterback position, every year the class is supposedly weak. With the exception of 2013 the QB's have at least been decent, 2011 was supposed to be a weak class yet Dalton, Newton and for a time Kap did work. If we can't draft Garrett, then go for Trubisky or Watson, the ideal situation would be Garrett and one of Watson or Trubisky slide and we trade back into first to draft them.
2011 was actually hyped up as a VERY GOOD QB class and we see how that worked out. Last year was supposed to be an AWFUL QB class. I don't buy into the hype anymore, just look at the individual prospects and forget about the labels the talking heads throw out there. There should be at least a few good starters that come out of this upcoming draft class assuming they wind up in decent situations.
Dec 23, 2016 at 9:18 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Ryanoceros:I don't see Chip passing on Watson at 2 and I personally would like to draft Watson. I see him starting from day 1. The Browns desperately need a QB, but us on the other hand could potentially Kaep for another year .
Yeah that isn't happening.
and wait for next years draft class, which is filled with QB talent
You realize this is exactly what people said a year ago? There's going to be QB talent like in pretty much every draft but I wouldn't necessarily say it is "filled." Rosen was a disappointment as a sophomore with no guarantee that he steps it up as a junior, Jackson is more athlete than QB right now and Browning has a lot of talent but also questions about his physical ability.
Josh Allen of Wyoming might be the top QB prospect for next year but he has a lot of questions around him as well, starting with the fact that he plays at Wyoming.
The next QB class always looks better because they haven't yet been overanalyzed to death the way the current class is currently being overanalyzed.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Dec 23, 2016 at 9:28 AM ]
Dec 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM
- SheHateMe
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Take BPA; since we need help at EVERY position the players should be drafted according to our draft board with QB obviously being the most important position in all of sports and the only position to reach a little on if you think he's your future.