The Colts are 4-5 with Luck and he has a better defense and more talent on offense than he would have with the 49ers (Hilton, Moncrief, Allen, and Doyle are better than our WR's/TE's and Hyde vs. Gore is a wash when Hyde is healthy). They may even have a better offensive line than us although neither team has a great line.
We're more than 1 player away from being a good team even if that player is a franchise QB or pass rusher.
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Mike Williams (WR Clemson)
Nov 16, 2016 at 3:24 PM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Nov 27, 2016 at 6:37 AM
- NYniner85
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So nasty kid is the top WR in the draft without question.
Nov 27, 2016 at 10:11 AM
- YungAce
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Originally posted by NYniner85:So nasty kid is the top WR in the draft without question.
id take this guy if we had any pick after the top 5
Nov 27, 2016 at 4:04 PM
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Originally posted by YungAce:Originally posted by NYniner85:So nasty kid is the top WR in the draft without question.
id take this guy if we had any pick after the top 5
Wouldn't be mad if we are out of top 5, but that is only way right now
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:17 AM
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I'm trying to find scenarios in.my mind where we could possibly draft Williams. We could make a run at Alshon Jeffrey, but in the event we miss out, Williams is a bonafied number one. The only possible way I see it is if:
1. Kap continues to improve
2. Baalke is fired.
3. We miss out on Jeffrey.
4. Cleveland drafts Myles Garrett.
5. The 49ers, no longer needing to use that 2nd overall on a QB, trade down for a boat load of picks. May take some more manuevering, but draft Mike Williams with one of those picks.
I honestly want to see a more aggressive strategy with this years draft. We have plenty of ok to solid guys. We need guys that can dominate. Guys that win one on one matchups and must always be double teamed or accounted for. Might need to get the draft pick chart out, but I could do a first round of Williams and one of the top 3-4 OLBs available not named Myles Garrett, along with a QB like Falk to move forward with.
1. Kap continues to improve
2. Baalke is fired.
3. We miss out on Jeffrey.
4. Cleveland drafts Myles Garrett.
5. The 49ers, no longer needing to use that 2nd overall on a QB, trade down for a boat load of picks. May take some more manuevering, but draft Mike Williams with one of those picks.
I honestly want to see a more aggressive strategy with this years draft. We have plenty of ok to solid guys. We need guys that can dominate. Guys that win one on one matchups and must always be double teamed or accounted for. Might need to get the draft pick chart out, but I could do a first round of Williams and one of the top 3-4 OLBs available not named Myles Garrett, along with a QB like Falk to move forward with.
Nov 28, 2016 at 7:48 AM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm trying to find scenarios in.my mind where we could possibly draft Williams. We could make a run at Alshon Jeffrey, but in the event we miss out, Williams is a bonafied number one. The only possible way I see it is if:
1. Kap continues to improve
2. Baalke is fired.
3. We miss out on Jeffrey.
4. Cleveland drafts Myles Garrett.
5. The 49ers, no longer needing to use that 2nd overall on a QB, trade down for a boat load of picks. May take some more manuevering, but draft Mike Williams with one of those picks.
I honestly want to see a more aggressive strategy with this years draft. We have plenty of ok to solid guys. We need guys that can dominate. Guys that win one on one matchups and must always be double teamed or accounted for. Might need to get the draft pick chart out, but I could do a first round of Williams and one of the top 3-4 OLBs available not named Myles Garrett, along with a QB like Falk to move forward with.
Seen a lot of mocks with him going from 10-15...It would take a trade back, just not sure there's a player that a team would want to burn a bunch of picks to move up for currently?
I'm with you not more p***y footing around in the draft and getting 10+ developmental prospects we have a ton of on the team currently...I'm completely fine with leaving this draft with 5 players IMPACT guys. Whomever is the GM needs to move around and get their guys.
Not a real fan of Falk (who might be staying another yr) very accurate, but I just don't see the zip in his throws that are needed at the next level.
Nov 28, 2016 at 1:40 PM
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Scenario time.
Cleveland takes Mitch #1.
Your are sitting at #2 staring at Myles Garrett's name on your card when a call from the Titans comes through. They are offering you both their #1's to move up for Garrett. Do you take that and grab Mike Williams and either the best pass rusher or QB to fall or do you stick with Myles Garrett?
Cleveland takes Mitch #1.
Your are sitting at #2 staring at Myles Garrett's name on your card when a call from the Titans comes through. They are offering you both their #1's to move up for Garrett. Do you take that and grab Mike Williams and either the best pass rusher or QB to fall or do you stick with Myles Garrett?
Nov 28, 2016 at 1:55 PM
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Originally posted by Southpaw79:
Scenario time.
Cleveland takes Mitch #1.
Your are sitting at #2 staring at Myles Garrett's name on your card when a call from the Titans comes through. They are offering you both their #1's to move up for Garrett. Do you take that and grab Mike Williams and either the best pass rusher or QB to fall or do you stick with Myles Garrett?
I highly doubt they give up two 1sts for a defensive player...I would take Myles and be pumped you have no idea who's gonna be there with those later firsts and from the looks of it that Titan pick is gonna be lower than we thought lol
Nov 28, 2016 at 2:00 PM
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as for pickin up a QB, we must decide if anyone in the Draft is worth picking within the TOP 7 (just in case we win a couple of games).. if not, then we must also decide if the below possible "FOR TRADE or FREE AGENTS" are worth 30% of our salary cap..
GRAPPOLO
BRIDGEWATER
BRADFORD
STAFFORD
GRAPPOLO
BRIDGEWATER
BRADFORD
STAFFORD
Nov 28, 2016 at 2:51 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:I highly doubt they give up two 1sts for a defensive player...I would take Myles and be pumped you have no idea who's gonna be there with those later firsts and from the looks of it that Titan pick is gonna be lower than we thought lol
This. Take Garrett, figure the rest out later.
Nov 28, 2016 at 3:24 PM
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Nov 28, 2016 at 4:47 PM
- ChaunceyGardner
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Watson to Williams just took #1 you got Mossed
Nice hands, great deep pass
Nice hands, great deep pass
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:20 PM
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Hes going to the Titans with the 8th overall pick..
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:25 PM
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
Hes going to the Titans with the 8th overall pick..
They might have Fournette and Cook sitting there too. They should get a really good offensive player
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:39 PM
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Hes going to the Titans with the 8th overall pick..
They might have Fournette and Cook sitting there too. They should get a really good offensive player
RB isn't needed there with D Murray and Henry..Just looking at their depth chart and WR is the Biggest need, tho positions can be upgraded like S with Peppers and DE with Allen which would take them to trade up..