Whatever CBs are coming of ACL injuries or suspensions. With this new 2-1-8 defense we are running, I expect to draft at least 3 new CBs, and a couple of safeties.
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May 1, 2016 at 11:28 AM
- GoreGoreGore
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May 1, 2016 at 11:44 AM
- Jcool
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Dont see the appeal of Luke Falk. He plays for Mike Leach, who gets QBs to put up huge numbers, but are not NFL QBs. I mean he attempted 644 passes in 12 games (in one game he attempted 74 passes). So of course he will have good overall stats. Graham Harrell put up 45 TDs & 9 INTs in 2008, finished 4th in Heisman voting and went undrafted. Kliff Kingsbury finished 9th in Heisman voting with 45 TDs & 13 INTs (drafted in 6th round). Both are now college coaches.
[ Edited by Jcool on May 1, 2016 at 11:44 AM ]
May 1, 2016 at 12:11 PM
- joaosoarrs99
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IMO Myles Garrett can be JJ Watt in a few years. I also like Brad Kayaa.
May 1, 2016 at 12:27 PM
- SunDevilNiner79
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Well last year the 2 Sun Devils thought I thought would be drafted were OG Westerman (5th round pick) and DJ Foster (UDFA signed by Patriots, wont be surprised at all if he is a big time player in 3 years).
This year, the Sun Devils to keep an eye on:
Seniors
WR/KR - Tim White, I doubt he will be a high pick, probably an UDFA. But the dude is a potential Olympian and a dynamic athlete. Just raw at football
MLB Fiso - He has been a solid player for years for us, a roaming attacking MLB. Right now I'd put him down as a 6th rounder
OLB Moekiola - If this guy could ever stay healthy, he'd be a much bigger name. So a wildcard guy that could have a monster year, or get hurt in game 2 and never heard from again
Underclassmen
RB Demario Richard - At 5'10 220lbs the guy is an ideal inside the Tackle RB. Small enough to hide behind lineman and slip through, and also powerful enough to churn out yards and break arm tackles at the 2nd level. Right no I'd put him down as a 5th/6th rounder. If he has a big year, I'd expect him to come out early and potentially move up to the 3rd round. I don't think he has the speed to go earlier than the 3rd
This year, the Sun Devils to keep an eye on:
Seniors
WR/KR - Tim White, I doubt he will be a high pick, probably an UDFA. But the dude is a potential Olympian and a dynamic athlete. Just raw at football
MLB Fiso - He has been a solid player for years for us, a roaming attacking MLB. Right now I'd put him down as a 6th rounder
OLB Moekiola - If this guy could ever stay healthy, he'd be a much bigger name. So a wildcard guy that could have a monster year, or get hurt in game 2 and never heard from again
Underclassmen
RB Demario Richard - At 5'10 220lbs the guy is an ideal inside the Tackle RB. Small enough to hide behind lineman and slip through, and also powerful enough to churn out yards and break arm tackles at the 2nd level. Right no I'd put him down as a 5th/6th rounder. If he has a big year, I'd expect him to come out early and potentially move up to the 3rd round. I don't think he has the speed to go earlier than the 3rd
May 1, 2016 at 3:59 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by Jcool:Dont see the appeal of Luke Falk. He plays for Mike Leach, who gets QBs to put up huge numbers, but are not NFL QBs. I mean he attempted 644 passes in 12 games (in one game he attempted 74 passes). So of course he will have good overall stats. Graham Harrell put up 45 TDs & 9 INTs in 2008, finished 4th in Heisman voting and went undrafted. Kliff Kingsbury finished 9th in Heisman voting with 45 TDs & 13 INTs (drafted in 6th round). Both are now college coaches.
Not all QBs are the same just cuz they played in the same system. Goff played in a similar offense but showed NFL level skills while running it and went #1 overall.
Falk was very impressive running that offense and with another solid season can get himself drafted high.
May 1, 2016 at 4:29 PM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
IMO Myles Garrett can be JJ Watt in a few years. I also like Brad Kayaa.
Very different players. Garrett is going to be a monster 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. He's more like a more athletic Aldon Smith. Or a slightly less athletic, but bigger and longer Von Miller.
May 1, 2016 at 4:41 PM
- MadDog49er
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This will be the best group of RBs in an NFL draft in 20+ years, and I am not so sure it is a slam dunk Fournette is the first RB. Christian McCaffrey and Samaje Perine and Dalvin Cook are pretty good
May 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Jcool:Dont see the appeal of Luke Falk. He plays for Mike Leach, who gets QBs to put up huge numbers, but are not NFL QBs. I mean he attempted 644 passes in 12 games (in one game he attempted 74 passes). So of course he will have good overall stats. Graham Harrell put up 45 TDs & 9 INTs in 2008, finished 4th in Heisman voting and went undrafted. Kliff Kingsbury finished 9th in Heisman voting with 45 TDs & 13 INTs (drafted in 6th round). Both are now college coaches.
Cant judge every QB by the scheme they play in. Goff played in largely the same offense and was the #1 pick in the draft.
If Falk has a good season and shows continued improvement he will be in the discussion as an early 1st round QB.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 1, 2016 at 5:26 PM ]
May 1, 2016 at 7:04 PM
- jreff22
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Next years top prospects at positions of need - Seniors only
Top 10 prospects at QB
Chad Kelly Ole Miss
C.J. Beathard Iowa
Joshua Dobbs Tennessee
Seth Russell Baylor
Mitch Leidner Minnesota
Jeremy Johnson Auburn
Gunner Kiel Cincinnati
Nick Mullens Southern Mississippi
Baker Mayfield Oklahoma
Brady Gustafson Montana
Top 10 prospects at C
Ethan Pocic LSU
Dan Voltz Wisconsin
Cameron Tom Southern Mississippi
Tyler Orlosky West Virginia
Kyle Fulle rBaylor
Deyshawn Bond Cincinnati
Jay Guillermo Clemson
Lucas Crowley North Carolina
Michael Selby Marshall
Jon Toth Kentucky
Top 5 prospects at RB
Corey Clement Wisconsin
James Conner Pittsburgh
Kareem Hunt Toledo
Shock Linwood Baylor
Justin Davis Southern California
Top 10 prospects at WR
Mike Williams Clemson
Fred Ross Mississippi State
Jehu Chesson Michigan
Travin Dural LSU
Stacy Coley Miami (Fla.)
Gabe Marks Washington State
Cooper Kupp Eastern Washington
Quincy Adeboyejo Ole Miss
Corey Davis Western Michigan
Taywan Taylor Western Kentucky
Top 10 prospects at ILB
Reuben Foster Alabama
Kendell Beckwith LSU
Keith Kelsey Louisville
Hardy Nickerson Illinois
Ben Boulware Clemson
Calvin Munson San Diego State
Riley Bullough Michigan State
Christian Tago San Jose State
Reggie Carter Georgia
Richie Brown Mississippi State
Top 20 prospects at DE/OLB
Jonathan Allen Alabama
DeMarcus Walker Florida State
Isaac Rochel lNotre Dame
Devonte Fields Louisville
Deatrich Wise Jr. Arkansas
Lewis Neal LSU
Daeshon Hall Texas A&M
Kylie Fitts Utah
Ken Ekanem Virginia Tech
Alex Barrett San Diego State
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Tim Williams Alabama
Skai Moore South Carolina
Jarrad Davis Florida
Josh Carraway TCU
Ryan Anderson Alabama
Jalen Reeves-Maybin Tennessee
Deon Hollins UCLA
Vince Biegel Wisconsin
Steven Taylor Houston
Jordan Evans Oklahoma
May 1, 2016 at 8:22 PM
- Travisty13
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Should at least give nfldraftscout their due if you copy and paste from them.Originally posted by jreff22:Next years top prospects at positions of need - Seniors only
Top 10 prospects at QB
Chad Kelly Ole Miss
C.J. Beathard Iowa
Joshua Dobbs Tennessee
Seth Russell Baylor
Mitch Leidner Minnesota
Jeremy Johnson Auburn
Gunner Kiel Cincinnati
Nick Mullens Southern Mississippi
Baker Mayfield Oklahoma
Brady Gustafson Montana
Top 10 prospects at C
Ethan Pocic LSU
Dan Voltz Wisconsin
Cameron Tom Southern Mississippi
Tyler Orlosky West Virginia
Kyle Fulle rBaylor
Deyshawn Bond Cincinnati
Jay Guillermo Clemson
Lucas Crowley North Carolina
Michael Selby Marshall
Jon Toth Kentucky
Top 5 prospects at RB
Corey Clement Wisconsin
James Conner Pittsburgh
Kareem Hunt Toledo
Shock Linwood Baylor
Justin Davis Southern California
Top 10 prospects at WR
Mike Williams Clemson
Fred Ross Mississippi State
Jehu Chesson Michigan
Travin Dural LSU
Stacy Coley Miami (Fla.)
Gabe Marks Washington State
Cooper Kupp Eastern Washington
Quincy Adeboyejo Ole Miss
Corey Davis Western Michigan
Taywan Taylor Western Kentucky
Top 10 prospects at ILB
Reuben Foster Alabama
Kendell Beckwith LSU
Keith Kelsey Louisville
Hardy Nickerson Illinois
Ben Boulware Clemson
Calvin Munson San Diego State
Riley Bullough Michigan State
Christian Tago San Jose State
Reggie Carter Georgia
Richie Brown Mississippi State
Top 20 prospects at DE/OLB
Jonathan Allen Alabama
DeMarcus Walker Florida State
Isaac Rochel lNotre Dame
Devonte Fields Louisville
Deatrich Wise Jr. Arkansas
Lewis Neal LSU
Daeshon Hall Texas A&M
Kylie Fitts Utah
Ken Ekanem Virginia Tech
Alex Barrett San Diego State
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Tim Williams Alabama
Skai Moore South Carolina
Jarrad Davis Florida
Josh Carraway TCU
Ryan Anderson Alabama
Jalen Reeves-Maybin Tennessee
Deon Hollins UCLA
Vince Biegel Wisconsin
Steven Taylor Houston
Jordan Evans Oklahoma
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2017&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
May 1, 2016 at 8:24 PM
- jreff22
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Originally posted by Travisty13:Should at least give nfldraftscout their due if you copy and paste from them.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2017&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
I was not implying I created that list. But you're right.
May 1, 2016 at 10:52 PM
- martysofresh
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Should at least give nfldraftscout their due if you copy and paste from them.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2017&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
I was not implying I created that list. But you're right.
Greg Ward Jr gets no love cause he's from Houston. He's 5'11 so he'll probably be next year's Vernon Adams but damn hope he gets drafted and developed. Cant help but root for him.
May 1, 2016 at 11:02 PM
- YungAce
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Deshaun Watson-QB-Clemson
Myles Garrett-DE-Texas A&M
Luke Falk-QB-Washington
Cam Robinson-OT-Alabama
Conor McDermott-OT-UCLA
Jalen Tabor-CB-Florida
Charles Harris-DE/OLB-Missouri
add Fournette to this
May 2, 2016 at 9:19 AM
- mayo49
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Luke Falk-QB-Washington, 6'4", 214
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 2, 2016 at 9:20 AM ]
May 2, 2016 at 9:48 AM
- TheRambler
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Originally posted by Travisty13:Should at least give nfldraftscout their due if you copy and paste from them.Originally posted by jreff22:Next years top prospects at positions of need - Seniors only
Top 10 prospects at QB
Chad Kelly Ole Miss
C.J. Beathard Iowa
Joshua Dobbs Tennessee
Seth Russell Baylor
Mitch Leidner Minnesota
Jeremy Johnson Auburn
Gunner Kiel Cincinnati
Nick Mullens Southern Mississippi
Baker Mayfield Oklahoma
Brady Gustafson Montana
Top 10 prospects at C
Ethan Pocic LSU
Dan Voltz Wisconsin
Cameron Tom Southern Mississippi
Tyler Orlosky West Virginia
Kyle Fulle rBaylor
Deyshawn Bond Cincinnati
Jay Guillermo Clemson
Lucas Crowley North Carolina
Michael Selby Marshall
Jon Toth Kentucky
Top 5 prospects at RB
Corey Clement Wisconsin
James Conner Pittsburgh
Kareem Hunt Toledo
Shock Linwood Baylor
Justin Davis Southern California
Top 10 prospects at WR
Mike Williams Clemson
Fred Ross Mississippi State
Jehu Chesson Michigan
Travin Dural LSU
Stacy Coley Miami (Fla.)
Gabe Marks Washington State
Cooper Kupp Eastern Washington
Quincy Adeboyejo Ole Miss
Corey Davis Western Michigan
Taywan Taylor Western Kentucky
Top 10 prospects at ILB
Reuben Foster Alabama
Kendell Beckwith LSU
Keith Kelsey Louisville
Hardy Nickerson Illinois
Ben Boulware Clemson
Calvin Munson San Diego State
Riley Bullough Michigan State
Christian Tago San Jose State
Reggie Carter Georgia
Richie Brown Mississippi State
Top 20 prospects at DE/OLB
Jonathan Allen Alabama
DeMarcus Walker Florida State
Isaac Rochel lNotre Dame
Devonte Fields Louisville
Deatrich Wise Jr. Arkansas
Lewis Neal LSU
Daeshon Hall Texas A&M
Kylie Fitts Utah
Ken Ekanem Virginia Tech
Alex Barrett San Diego State
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Tim Williams Alabama
Skai Moore South Carolina
Jarrad Davis Florida
Josh Carraway TCU
Ryan Anderson Alabama
Jalen Reeves-Maybin Tennessee
Deon Hollins UCLA
Vince Biegel Wisconsin
Steven Taylor Houston
Jordan Evans Oklahoma
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2017&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
Also, lists of seniors only are pretty useless in this day and age of the best draft prospects usually being juniors and redshirt sophomores.