Originally posted by barrymartin:
This is his make or break moment. Keep wondering what we would have had to give up to get to #1. Probably way to much to make it justifiable. But maybe the only choice is to move to #2 if the Rams don't draft the guy they want, which I believe is Goff. If Goff is truly a top 15 QB like MadDog says, you have to draft him even if it means moving up to #2. Phoenix has shown that franchise QB's are almost always taken in the 1st round. To reboot this franchise for long term success you need a franchise QB and this team does not have one, period. Can anybody here really argue for Kap or Blaine? Would anyone really want to bet that Cook or Prescott or even Lynch or Franchise QB's.. Don't think so...
Well, sure No.1 might have been too much if you look at it in isolation, but I look at it quite differently. First of all, I had always said No.3 was the minimum just in case the Cowboys were to decide to grab a future franchise QB or another team jumped ahead of the 9ers to do the same. Well, as it turned out that team was the Rams which went all the way to No.1.
If you think about it, may be the Rams didn't need to go No.1, may be No.3 could have been enough to land them one guy between Goff and Wentz. Well, either they have a distinct preference on one of the QBs or may be they knew they already would be breaking the bank to get to 3, so how much more would it take to get to No.1? If is marginal, why not just go for it and be the boss who decides who they want as opposed to taking the leftover pick from the Browns?
So, here is my point with regards to the 9ers. If indeed the 9ers had considered about trading up, may be as high as to No.3 for the sake of discussion. That meant they were already prepared and willing to entertain the cost involved to get to 3. So, say what if they had half a hunch a team might go for broke and may be to be safe they felt they needed to go to 1? Couldn't they have gone through the same chain of thoughts that I just detailed above for the Rams. Sort of, heck we are already coughing up this much, why not just pay a little more and get it done? If you look at it that way, may be it would make more strategic sense.
Like Phoenix had said almost most franchise QBs are taken in the 1st round. I also looked into it, yes the bust rate might be high, but out of the current crop of starting QBs for the 32 teams, if I am not wrong before Peyton retired, 20 of them were all 1st rounders. It is what it is, in other words, if you are serious about getting the next franchise QB that is what you need to do. Just look at the most recent example, 2 QBs went 1 and 2 in last year's draft. You could fancy your chances and go for some guy in the 2nd or 3rd round, but in essence the later you pull the trigger the lower your chance of success in hitting the right guy. Is like when you want to buy a designer suit, you need to go to shops like Giorgio Armani, you don't go to some discount store. But, will you ever be able to find a nice piece once in a blue moon from the discount store? May be, like a Russell Wilson, but that is a lottery pick that teams get lucky on, is like Tom Brady the 199th pick or even our own Joe Montana, a 3rd rounder. All these picks are based on luck as in well why not give it a try is only a 3rd round pick anyway? That is the premise of such picks and it probably wouldn't have mattered much if they busted out as teams would have other options.
Let's face it, if we were in the market for a franchise QB last year (which we should have been), we would have gone through the same thing if we were drafting at 7th. In other words, should we have traded up to get our guy, but I guess unfortunately both the Bucs and Titans needed a franchise QB badly. Or if you look ahead to the 2017 draft, if we were drafting at around 7th and again we would be going through the same process, the chances are we would have to trade up to grab Deshaun Watson. In other words, there is no free lunch in this world, if you want a top QB prospect you will have to pay for it or unless you decide to tank your games the season before to lock down that high draft pick. There is just no way around it. We have seen it all before, every year there is a major need for franchise QBs, they almost always go high in the 1st round.
Bottom line, Baalke didn't do jack as usual. The Balke supporters will go oh he was never going to go QB anyway and thank God he didn't blow a bunch of picks. Well guess what? I have news for you folks, you are only delaying the inevitable, the chances are eventually you will still have to trade up to get your guy in the coming drafts only it will be worse down the road. Why? Cos you would have improved the D and the 9ers' record might improve as time goes by which means we will be drafting even lower than 7th, may be even in the mid teens like the Rams were. What would you do then? Pull a Rams? LOL. We would be back to where we started. This just goes to show Baalke has no planning, no foresight whatsoever.