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Mar 29, 2016 at 5:12 AM
- Travisty13
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Don't see the need for a RB high this year. Let's see what Hyde and Davis do in Chip's offense. On top of that we still have a number of guys behind them that are serviceable. I'd rather wait til the 2017 draft that is stacked full of potential great RBs.
Mar 29, 2016 at 5:21 AM
- MrMrMEanerMister
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Also there are about 5-10 RB's we could bring in on a 1 year deal should we suffer an injury at the position.
Foster
Hillman
Blount
Bell
Thomas
Gerhart
Bush
Hunter
Hightower
not to mention if we get in trouble we could trade a future 7th for lower ranked guys.
Foster
Hillman
Blount
Bell
Thomas
Gerhart
Bush
Hunter
Hightower
not to mention if we get in trouble we could trade a future 7th for lower ranked guys.
Mar 29, 2016 at 9:02 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
I love how everyone thinks we are set at RB.
We for sure are not set at RB with really imo 1 good RB on the roster and he has so far a history with injuries.
Elliot will be a star RB in this league and we are staring at him at 7.
We must take Zeke if Buckner,Jack,Ramsey,Tunsil are gone at 7 which im pretty sure everyone agrees will be the case.
Anyone have an argument telling me otherwise? And no I'm not a OSU fan
RB is far from this team's biggest need. A big issue with Hyde is that he was constantly getting contact behind the line of scrimmage. One of the best ways to help him stay healthy is to build up the OL and have a competent passing game. A change of pace back can be found in the 3rd or 4th rounds, no need to burn a top 10 pick on a RB.
The priority IMO should be QB, followed by DL, OL and OLB. Anything beyond that is pretty much a luxury as its not going to be a one or two year rebuild process.
Mar 29, 2016 at 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by WildBill:
If it went like that it would be Buckner, especially since Williams and Dorsey are questionable now. You are not going to take a running back and he sits and plays only part of the time. We can grab Tyler later in the draft to spell Hyde. The problem is the OL, improve that and the other backs will do better.
This. Buckner would be the guy, no question. He satisfies Baalke's long arm fetish and is quite familiar to Kelly and Azzinaro. Too much upside with how much his impact would be on the DL to pass on him.
Mar 29, 2016 at 11:14 AM
- Bellaleo
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Go watch mike Davis' tape from 2013 when he was healthy he was looking like on of the top RBs in the nation. He got injured in 2014 and put on too much weight, which IMO carried over into last season.
You got to look at Hyde and zeke an see what kind of backs they are...they wear down defenses and need touches to get better. You'd be wasting their talents sticking them in for a series then sitting them. It would hurt both of them IMO.
Zeke is not gurley...he kind of reminds me of gore who's not a complementary back like you want. We need a COP back, Ervin is my pick. I wouldn't be very pissed if we blow our 7th pick on a RB, this team doesn't need a RB. That would be a luxury pick which is something we can't afford right now. There will be prospects at positions of need that are just as talented at 7.
I believe Zeke will be a better back than Hyde and I think Hyde is pretty damn good.
If Zeke is BPA take him at 7 no questions asked.
Mar 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM
- Bellaleo
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
RB is far from this team's biggest need. A big issue with Hyde is that he was constantly getting contact behind the line of scrimmage. One of the best ways to help him stay healthy is to build up the OL and have a competent passing game. A change of pace back can be found in the 3rd or 4th rounds, no need to burn a top 10 pick on a RB.
The priority IMO should be QB, followed by DL, OL and OLB. Anything beyond that is pretty much a luxury as its not going to be a one or two year rebuild process.
Since when do you draft in the top 10 for your biggest need?
BPA is the way to go especially when we pick that high.
I really want us to get Buckner or Jack but it isn't happening for us at 7.
Sometimes you have to let the board come to you and in this draft I have a feeling BPA will be ZEKE.
Mar 29, 2016 at 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:Since when do you draft in the top 10 for your biggest need?
BPA is the way to go especially when we pick that high.
I really want us to get Buckner or Jack but it isn't happening for us at 7.
Sometimes you have to let the board come to you and in this draft I have a feeling BPA will be ZEKE.
Can't see it. There are just too many top talents at positions of major need for us. Any of whom could be assessed as BPA.
Mar 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:I believe Zeke will be a better back than Hyde and I think Hyde is pretty damn good.
If Zeke is BPA take him at 7 no questions asked.
You start the thread by saying everyone supposedly thinks we are set at RB ( which isn't true no one has said that) then you ask why he shouldn't be the pick and eveyone has given you many reasons as to why he shouldn't be the pick
I ask you what was the point in drafting Hyde in 2013 and moving on from gore if your not gonna let him be the RB? It blows my mind how a lot of people on here are so easy to move on from a player for the new flavor of the week lol...Davis gets 35 attempts all year so he must be garbage? Hyde gets hurt so we should look elsewhere for RB?
The narrative of drafting BPA is so overblown, so if Goff is BPA when Baltimore is picking then he should be the pick?? There are very very good players that will be at 7 that will be at a position of need vs drafting a RB to splits carries...does drafting a RB to get 10 touches a game sounds like a smart plan with the 7th pick?
Mar 29, 2016 at 11:56 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:Since when do you draft in the top 10 for your biggest need?
BPA is the way to go especially when we pick that high.
I really want us to get Buckner or Jack but it isn't happening for us at 7.
Sometimes you have to let the board come to you and in this draft I have a feeling BPA will be ZEKE.
Why isn't it happening? Where are you projecting the top 7 picks going? This is what I see happening (without trades)
1-tunsil
2-wentz
3-Ramsey
4-bosa
5-Jack
6-Stanley
7-Buckner/Goff
Mar 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM
- Joecool
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We are not using our 7th pick for a player who will be a backup or sharing snaps at best. #7 pick MUST be a player who will be playing 100% of the snaps.
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:19 PM
- Bellaleo
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Originally posted by Joecool:
We are not using our 7th pick for a player who will be a backup or sharing snaps at best. #7 pick MUST be a player who will be playing 100% of the snaps.
When he comes in to camp and out performs Hyde he would then become our #1 feature back
drafting for need this high in the draft would be a major blunder for us
[ Edited by Bellaleo on Mar 29, 2016 at 10:22 PM ]
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:21 PM
- Bellaleo
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Since when do you draft in the top 10 for your biggest need?
BPA is the way to go especially when we pick that high.
I really want us to get Buckner or Jack but it isn't happening for us at 7.
Sometimes you have to let the board come to you and in this draft I have a feeling BPA will be ZEKE.
Why isn't it happening? Where are you projecting the top 7 picks going? This is what I see happening (without trades)
1-tunsil
2-wentz
3-Ramsey
4-bosa
5-Jack
6-Stanley
7-Buckner/Goff
I see Baltimore running up to the podium if Buckner is still there at 6. BPA and a need for them to boot.
If not I would surely take Buckner at 7 over Zeke as I would consider him BPA
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:23 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:Elliot is not the BPA at 7, and def wont beat out Hyde
Originally posted by Joecool:
We are not using our 7th pick for a player who will be a backup or sharing snaps at best. #7 pick MUST be a player who will be playing 100% of the snaps.
When he comes in to camp and out performs Hyde he would them become our #1 feature back
drafting for need this high in the draft would be a major blunder for us
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:32 PM
- Bellaleo
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:Elliot is not the BPA at 7, and def wont beat out Hyde
Originally posted by Joecool:
We are not using our 7th pick for a player who will be a backup or sharing snaps at best. #7 pick MUST be a player who will be playing 100% of the snaps.
When he comes in to camp and out performs Hyde he would them become our #1 feature back
drafting for need this high in the draft would be a major blunder for us
1 Tunsil 2 Wentz/Goff 3 Ramsey 4 Jack 5 Bosa 6 Buckner I feel like in a scenario such as this Zeke would indeed be the BPA
[ Edited by Bellaleo on Mar 29, 2016 at 10:32 PM ]
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:37 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:Stanley, easy choice
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:Elliot is not the BPA at 7, and def wont beat out Hyde
Originally posted by Joecool:
We are not using our 7th pick for a player who will be a backup or sharing snaps at best. #7 pick MUST be a player who will be playing 100% of the snaps.
When he comes in to camp and out performs Hyde he would them become our #1 feature back
drafting for need this high in the draft would be a major blunder for us
1 Tunsil 2 Wentz/Goff 3 Ramsey 4 Jack 5 Bosa 6 Buckner I feel like in a scenario such as this Zeke would indeed be the BPA