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Do we keep our top pick or trade down?
Do we keep our top pick or trade down?
Dec 15, 2015 at 12:34 PM
- jays9ers
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I'm assuming we'll have a to five pick next draft...My question is simple, keep it? Or trade back for more picks...
Dec 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM
- Since07
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It depends who's there if Jaylon or Tunsil was there I say keep it otherwise I wouldn't mind trading back
Dec 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM
- AB81Rules
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Considering Top 5, I see these guys as the guys I would want the most.
Joey Bosa
Robert Nkemdiche
Jaylon Smith
Laremy Tunsil
Ronnie Stanley
So if we're top 5, then we take whoever is left of these guys, I think all 5 are All Pro's in the NFL.
If we trade down, then these are who I would look at, of course I wouldn't go beyond pick 10 if trading down.
Laquon Treadwell
Vernon Hargreaves III
Jalen Ramsey
Tyler Boyd
Jared Goff
Joey Bosa
Robert Nkemdiche
Jaylon Smith
Laremy Tunsil
Ronnie Stanley
So if we're top 5, then we take whoever is left of these guys, I think all 5 are All Pro's in the NFL.
If we trade down, then these are who I would look at, of course I wouldn't go beyond pick 10 if trading down.
Laquon Treadwell
Vernon Hargreaves III
Jalen Ramsey
Tyler Boyd
Jared Goff
Dec 15, 2015 at 6:33 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Considering Top 5, I see these guys as the guys I would want the most.
Joey Bosa
Robert Nkemdiche
Jaylon Smith
Laremy Tunsil
Ronnie Stanley
So if we're top 5, then we take whoever is left of these guys, I think all 5 are All Pro's in the NFL.
If we trade down, then these are who I would look at, of course I wouldn't go beyond pick 10 if trading down.
Laquon Treadwell
Vernon Hargreaves III
Jalen Ramsey
Tyler Boyd
Jared Goff
If we are in the top 5, the only way I even entertain a trade down is if someone offers us an RG3 type of trade. We essentially keep a top 10 pick, and have extra first rounders for the next two seasons. There may have been some other picks involved in that trade, but I would want some serious draft capital to trade out of missing on those top 5 guys. One of the things I worried about during our run from 2011-2013 was that we would never have a shot at the elite talent for a few years because we were drafting at the end of the first. Aside from the home run drafts Baalke put together in 2010 and 2011, our team was built off of guys that were mostly taken near the top of their respective round or from trades into the first when tremendous value presented itself (Joe Staley).
Dec 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM
- highway49
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If' we are one the first five to pick then I guess TD takes a shot at a blue chip player..if we in the 5-10 range TD trades back for a next year 1st and some assorted other picks, and still, finally selects a player none of us want or can figure out why he would take...I am getting a bit pessimistic as to our draft scouts/staff and overall drafting ability.
Dec 15, 2015 at 8:17 PM
- GreatGabbert
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Statistical analysis shows that you get much better bang for your draft dollar later in the first round through to the middle of the third. It's fairly significant difference as well. So, absolutely trade back the to second half of round one, and add a second, third, and possibly a pick from next year's draft.
Dec 15, 2015 at 8:53 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Keep it. This team needs stars. Depth won't help this team. They don't even have front line stars.
Dec 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by GreatGabbert:Statistical analysis shows that you get much better bang for your draft dollar later in the first round through to the middle of the third. It's fairly significant difference as well. So, absolutely trade back the to second half of round one, and add a second, third, and possibly a pick from next year's draft.
Link?
That may have been true when high first rounders were getting absurd deals, but I find it hard to believe now.
Dec 15, 2015 at 9:27 PM
- GreatGabbert
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Link?
That may have been true when high first rounders were getting absurd deals, but I find it hard to believe now.
In relation to the current draft value chart, which is what most trades are based on. If you traded #10 for instance, for #20, #52, and #84, which is close value wise to the chart I think, you'd have much better chance of success taking the later picks. Of course there has to be a team willing to give three picks for one. Even if they offer less than chart value, it's a good deal, but it would depend on how much less. Most GMs won't go too far below draft chart value in a trade, and if they think the other team is desperate they ask for more.
Dec 16, 2015 at 12:38 AM
- kezar49er
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Trade back a little, get some picks and draft OLinemen pleasssssssseeeeee
Dec 16, 2015 at 12:47 AM
- BodhiPaddlesOut
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I want Baalke drafting as high as possible. I'm not sold on him quantity > quality.
Dec 16, 2015 at 1:50 AM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Considering Top 5, I see these guys as the guys I would want the most.
Joey Bosa
Robert Nkemdiche
Jaylon Smith
Laremy Tunsil
Ronnie Stanley
So if we're top 5, then we take whoever is left of these guys, I think all 5 are All Pro's in the NFL.
If we trade down, then these are who I would look at, of course I wouldn't go beyond pick 10 if trading down.
Laquon Treadwell
Vernon Hargreaves III
Jalen Ramsey
Tyler Boyd
Jared Goff
I really want to look in to Vernon Hargreaves more. A trade down from 5 to lets say 9 and getting a #1 CB with some nice picks could be a good option especially if we can get help with a pass rusher.
Dec 16, 2015 at 4:16 AM
- joaosoarrs99
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If Bosa, Tunsil, Smith and Goff are gone I'd like to trade down and pick Ogbah, Buckner, Decker or Doctson.
Dec 16, 2015 at 6:32 AM
- Murphys1
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Nobody mentioning Paxton Lynch?
Dec 16, 2015 at 6:58 AM
- joaosoarrs99
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Originally posted by Murphys1:Nobody mentioning Paxton Lynch?
IMO Goff is a better prospect with higher floor and ceiling. And Lynch is probably going to be a Brown anyway.