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Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

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Woo, hard to argue with those stats. Very impressive.
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Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
lol he won't stay in the pocket? I mean, he took zero sacks yesterday, which I wouldn't say is very Kap like. Kap is an explosive runner, whereas Watson is a glider who picks his spots and almost always picks the right spot. You see that corner route on the smash concept that he hit between three defenders on that video? How about the 50 yard bomb where the receiver was actually covered but he hit him perfectly in stride to the inside shoulder anyway (after diagnosing the blitz and looking off the safety)? I'm actually not a Kap hater like so many on here, but I haven't seen many throws like that from Kap lately.

Kap came out of a pistol offense where he rushed for 1000 yards a season basically. That is nothing like Clemson's offense. Watson hasn't even hit the one year mark on his ACL injury yet, so I can assure you he hasn't been overly eager to tuck and run this year. You're waaaay offbase saying he won't sit in the pocket and make throws. The kid's QB rating actually goes up when people blitz because he is so good at recognition.



Misread my post I'm guessing??
[ Edited by TheBlueHell on Dec 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM ]
Tajh Boyd put up similar numbers at Clemson for 3 years before Watson arrived, and he's a backup in the CFL today.
Originally posted by GreatGabbert:
Tajh Boyd put up similar numbers at Clemson for 3 years before Watson arrived, and he's a backup in the CFL today.

Not even close to the same player. I'd suggest you watch some of his games.
Similar numbers, not similar players necessarily. But it's something to think about.
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This guy is really a deep ball specialist. He throws a perfect spiral with a tonne of spin on the ball. He will be a huge prospect come 2017.
Originally posted by Rascal:
This guy is really a deep ball specialist. He throws a perfect spiral with a tonne of spin on the ball. He will be a huge prospect come 2017.

Absolutely. I hope people aren't scared by his running ability. Or maybe I do and its possible he can fall .
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Rascal:
This guy is really a deep ball specialist. He throws a perfect spiral with a tonne of spin on the ball. He will be a huge prospect come 2017.

Absolutely. I hope people aren't scared by his running ability. Or maybe I do and its possible he can fall .

The guy has only just come back from an ACL and still it looks to me he runs faster than Kap. Yea, I hope people don't get too distracted by his athleticism, his strength is his passing game.
Originally posted by GreatGabbert:
Similar numbers, not similar players necessarily. But it's something to think about.

Yeah, I don't want to demean Boyd, as he was a great college QB, but Watson is way better. Watson is a better runner, a better passer, a more accurate passer (deep/middle/short), better pocket presence, and is way better in the moment. Boyd had some big, big wins in his career, but he also self-destructed in some big games against FSU and SCAR. If things started to slide the wrong way, he could go into a shell. Watson hasn't shown that at all and has actually shown the opposite. He really does have icewater in his veins.

Another thing to consider is that while Watson has talent around him now, his supporting cast doesn't compare at this point to what Boyd had.

Boyd's cast (all NFL players now)
WR Sammy Watkins
WR Deandre Hopkins
WR Martavis Bryant
WR Jaron Brown
TE Dwayne Allen
RB Andre Ellington

That is just an ungodly cast of surrounding talent for a college team. Watson navigated this season without WR Mike Williams, who some draft analysts are picking as the top WR for the draft next season, assuming he does come back healthy in 2016. Williams broke a vertebrae in the first drive of the year (catching a TD pass and running into the stancheon).
[ Edited by TheBlueHell on Dec 6, 2015 at 9:19 AM ]

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We might need to take this Deshaun Watson idea a bit more seriously now that we have beaten the Bears as Goff could be out of reach for us.
Just won the Davey O'Brien award for best QB:

Just putting my place marker here. After Kaepernick gets traded and Gabbert continues to show that he is nothing but a backup QB in the NFL, this will be the next bandwagon to jump on to for a QB desperate team. Maybe they actually tank the right way and are in position to draft Watson straight up.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Just putting my place marker here. After Kaepernick gets traded and Gabbert continues to show that he is nothing but a backup QB in the NFL, this will be the next bandwagon to jump on to for a QB desperate team. Maybe they actually tank the right way and are in position to draft Watson straight up.

Jump on the bandwagon now only to see him drafted by another team.

As long as Baalke is GM he will never draft the QB you want him to, then again the draft isn't even here yet and I'm blabbing!!!!
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