Worst 5 Drafts in Last 10 Years

Originally posted by 9erred:
I truly believe that Harbaugh and Baalke where tyring to build an offense around CK7. They truly put a value on speed and spreading the field. Thus they took Aj Jenkins and LMJ. EPIC fail, but they rolled the dice and came up negative.

Truly the zone draft crushes would have been better in 2012 and 2013 than what the Niners draft board showed.

I agree, I didnt get the AJJ pick when Jeffry was there and Rueben Randall was there and TY Hilton was there!! I didnt get the LMJ pick whenKendall Hunter was Very good as a rookie the year before!! I didnt get the Vance McDonald pick when Travis Kelce and Eddie Lacy were still there and Jordan Reed was still there!!

Oh look susweel talking out his ass in here. Nothing new.

Let's not forget we also used a pick from that draft on Boldin iirc.

Reid made the pro bowl as a rookie. He's fine. The rest of the guys will make their case soon enough. Only time you grade a player before 5 years into their nfl career is if they've been cut by their original team.

And Lattimore was a smart pick even with the outcome they had. He was worth a gamble.

Originally posted by 9erred:

I truly believe that Harbaugh and Baalke where tyring to build an offense around CK7. They truly put a value on speed and spreading the field. Thus they took Aj Jenkins and LMJ. EPIC fail, but they rolled the dice and came up negative.

Truly the zone draft crushes would have been better in 2012 and 2013 than what the Niners draft board showed.

Which of the 50+ draft crushes per year are you referring to?

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh look susweel talking out his ass in here. Nothing new.

Let's not forget we also used a pick from that draft on Boldin iirc.

Reid made the pro bowl as a rookie. He's fine. The rest of the guys will make their case soon enough. Only time you grade a player before 5 years into their nfl career is if they've been cut by their original team.

And Lattimore was a smart pick even with the outcome they had. He was worth a gamble.

Agree.

The thing w/gambling is there is generally little chance of winning

BUT if you don't gamble - there's no chance!

Every draft pick is a gamble.

To be fair, by all accounts Lemon has looked good this offseason. Well see if it translates in the fall

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh look susweel talking out his ass in here. Nothing new.

Let's not forget we also used a pick from that draft on Boldin iirc.

Reid made the pro bowl as a rookie. He's fine. The rest of the guys will make their case soon enough. Only time you grade a player before 5 years into their nfl career is if they've been cut by their original team.

And Lattimore was a smart pick even with the outcome they had. He was worth a gamble.

lulz that alone proves my point.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Fact is you are wrong, they have made some minor contributions which is more than doing jack s**t. What they have yet to do is reach their full potential or come close to it. In Tank's case he will be entering his second year as a player and McDonald will hopefully get a chance to contribute as more than just a blocker. Patton as the coaching staff said will be getting his chances this year.

So a blocking TE who can't catch and a rotational DL is a good use of second round picks ?

The DL is going into his 2nd year as a player and the TE has been a good blocker who has not been afforded the opportunity to prove whether or not he can contribute as a receiver, can't fault the player for the way the previous staff chose to use him. But you can commend the strides he made as a blocker given the way he was used and what had been asked of him at the college level, and at that college level he did prove he can catch and contribute as a receiver.

Yah Im sure he was awesome in practices and coaches chose not use him. come on man

This is one of the funniest things to me. Yeah a player sucks because the coaches didn't use him. LOL like anyone in here knows how they perform in practice all year.

Lol yeah lol

This.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh look susweel talking out his ass in here. Nothing new.

Let's not forget we also used a pick from that draft on Boldin iirc.

Reid made the pro bowl as a rookie. He's fine. The rest of the guys will make their case soon enough. Only time you grade a player before 5 years into their nfl career is if they've been cut by their original team.

And Lattimore was a smart pick even with the outcome they had. He was worth a gamble.

Agree.

The thing w/gambling is there is generally little chance of winning

BUT if you don't gamble - there's no chance!

Every draft pick is a gamble.

If its already a gamble, then why decrease your odds of getting a winner by drafting guys with blown knees? Sure, the upside is great, but so is putting all your chips on 32 red.

Even if they recover, by the time they get up to speed and very good, its time for a fat payday and we could lose them. We are getting very little in return from these knee guys so far.

Originally posted by 9erred:
I truly believe that Harbaugh and Baalke where tyring to build an offense around CK7. They truly put a value on speed and spreading the field. Thus they took Aj Jenkins and LMJ. EPIC fail, but they rolled the dice and came up negative.

Truly the zone draft crushes would have been better in 2012 and 2013 than what the Niners draft board showed.

Thats why they had one of the largest oline's in the nfl, a big back with no top speed(Love Frank Gore dont hate on me), and slow possession receivers..

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Fact is you are wrong, they have made some minor contributions which is more than doing jack s**t. What they have yet to do is reach their full potential or come close to it. In Tank's case he will be entering his second year as a player and McDonald will hopefully get a chance to contribute as more than just a blocker. Patton as the coaching staff said will be getting his chances this year.

So a blocking TE who can't catch and a rotational DL is a good use of second round picks ?

The DL is going into his 2nd year as a player and the TE has been a good blocker who has not been afforded the opportunity to prove whether or not he can contribute as a receiver, can't fault the player for the way the previous staff chose to use him. But you can commend the strides he made as a blocker given the way he was used and what had been asked of him at the college level, and at that college level he did prove he can catch and contribute as a receiver.

Yah Im sure he was awesome in practices and coaches chose not use him. come on man

This is one of the funniest things to me. Yeah a player sucks because the coaches didn't use him. LOL like anyone in here knows how they perform in practice all year.

Lol yeah lol

This.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh look susweel talking out his ass in here. Nothing new.

Let's not forget we also used a pick from that draft on Boldin iirc.

Reid made the pro bowl as a rookie. He's fine. The rest of the guys will make their case soon enough. Only time you grade a player before 5 years into their nfl career is if they've been cut by their original team.

And Lattimore was a smart pick even with the outcome they had. He was worth a gamble.

Agree.

The thing w/gambling is there is generally little chance of winning

BUT if you don't gamble - there's no chance!

Every draft pick is a gamble.

If its already a gamble, then why decrease your odds of getting a winner by drafting guys with blown knees? Sure, the upside is great, but so is putting all your chips on 32 red.

Even if they recover, by the time they get up to speed and very good, its time for a fat payday and we could lose them. We are getting very little in return from these knee guys so far.

Appreciate your take.

IMO, this is the season we'll see the reward to risk payoff.

If Thomas and the rest of the ACL club were worth the gamble.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by susweel:
well the following year wasn't much better



1(18). Eric Reid, Safety, LSU - good player but concussion problems
2(40). Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Defensive End, Florida State - so far he's a bust
2(55). Vance McDonald, Tight End, Rice - big time bust
3(88). Corey Lemonier, Outside Linebacker, Auburn - bust
4(128). Quinton Patton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana Tech - back up caliber player
4(131). Marcus Lattimore, Running Back, South Carolina - epic waste of pick
5(157). Quinton Dial, Defensive Lineman, Alabama - decent rotational player
6(180). Nick Moody, Linebacker, Florida State - special teams only player
7(237). B.J. Daniels, Quarterback, South Florida - cut
7(246). Carter Bykowski, Offensive Tackle, Iowa State - cut
7(252). Marcus Cooper, Defensive Back, Rutgers- cut

Sadly this has been pretty accurate so far. I think Tank will break out a be a decent players. All those top picks and we haven't seen any major production except for Reid. Tank hasn't really played much and McDonald has pretty much failed every opportunity he has been given. These guys really need to shine this year. the 2012 draft was god awful

McDonald has been a beast of a blocker, granted its not flashy but its not "bust" potential either. Patton has made some plays when he actually gets in there. Dial has some great potential at end but was decent at NT which is not his natural position. Cooper has started albeit on another team. Carradine had the highest sack rate per play than any other D-lineman on the team. Reid has been stellar, can't really blame anyone for concussion problems… not like he's a human missile like Bob Sanders just had some rough luck. Lattimore was worth a 4th round pick imo, sucks it didn't work out but at the time it made all the sense in the world which people seem to forget to add to their opinion.

It's hard to really go either way on that class, they came into an already loaded roster with a coaching staff that at least on offense seem to want to play over the hill vets rather than allowing rookies to grow. After this year there will be no excuse and we can judge whether Baalke whiffed or whether the old staff was too cautious in never giving rooks much of a chance in games.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by susweel:

well the following year wasn't much better



1(18). Eric Reid, Safety, LSU - good player but concussion problems
2(40). Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Defensive End, Florida State - so far he's a bust
2(55). Vance McDonald, Tight End, Rice - big time bust
3(88). Corey Lemonier, Outside Linebacker, Auburn - bust
4(128). Quinton Patton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana Tech - back up caliber player
4(131). Marcus Lattimore, Running Back, South Carolina - epic waste of pick
5(157). Quinton Dial, Defensive Lineman, Alabama - decent rotational player
6(180). Nick Moody, Linebacker, Florida State - special teams only player
7(237). B.J. Daniels, Quarterback, South Florida - cut
7(246). Carter Bykowski, Offensive Tackle, Iowa State - cut
7(252). Marcus Cooper, Defensive Back, Rutgers- cut

Sadly this has been pretty accurate so far. I think Tank will break out a be a decent players. All those top picks and we haven't seen any major production except for Reid. Tank hasn't really played much and McDonald has pretty much failed every opportunity he has been given. These guys really need to shine this year. the 2012 draft was god awful

McDonald has been a beast of a blocker, granted its not flashy but its not "bust" potential either. Patton has made some plays when he actually gets in there. Dial has some great potential at end but was decent at NT which is not his natural position. Cooper has started albeit on another team. Carradine had the highest sack rate per play than any other D-lineman on the team. Reid has been stellar, can't really blame anyone for concussion problems… not like he's a human missile like Bob Sanders just had some rough luck. Lattimore was worth a 4th round pick imo, sucks it didn't work out but at the time it made all the sense in the world which people seem to forget to add to their opinion.

It's hard to really go either way on that class, they came into an already loaded roster with a coaching staff that at least on offense seem to want to play over the hill vets rather than allowing rookies to grow. After this year there will be no excuse and we can judge whether Baalke whiffed or whether the old staff was too cautious in never giving rooks much of a chance in games.

Are we really b***hing about a class that had Ried, tank, and dial???

Originally posted by Geeked:
Are we really b***hing about a class that had Ried, tank, and dial???

tank and dial

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Geeked:

Are we really b***hing about a class that had Ried, tank, and dial???

tank and dial

Where does one start?

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Geeked:
Are we really b***hing about a class that had Ried, tank, and dial???

tank and dial

Where does one start?

There's no reason to haha. At this point when certain posters chime in its just white noise.