Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Slowey was a clear late round flier pick. I was surprised he even got drafted. But he was picked with the 30th pick in the 6th round so it was pretty much just a hope that we could develop him, but like most late round guys he wasn't good enough. Marpet is a whole other animal. Vastly superior prospect. The two aren't even comparable really. "Small school" is really the only similarity. Baalke seems pretty comfortable looking at smaller schools: Reaser (Florida Atlantic), Kilgore (Appalachian State), Mike Person (Montana State - still in the league playing for St. Louis).
Marpet somehow managed to win a DIII Offensive POY award as an OL -- not "offensive lineman" of the year, offensive PLAYER of the year, which was an unprecedented accomplishment. Kid is special. Played well when facing top prospects from top conferences in the Senior Bowl. Certainly will have a learning curve in the NFL, but his reportedly "second to none" work ethic makes me believe he might be a nice success story in a couple years.
I played DIII. The talent level is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY lower than DI, and significantly lower than DII. It's really hard to figure out how a guy will play a whole season against bigger, stronger, faster, harder-hitting, more instinctive players. FWIW, I think all of your examples were from D1AA, ie: MUCH higher talent level than DIII. When I was playing, a bottom of the depth chart RB left UW and played for our cross-town rival (also DIII). He DOMINATED all year long. He had crazy stat lines every week, he was talked up nationally in DIII circles, and each one of his runs looked like he might score. He looked like Matt Dillon playing football in "There's Something About Mary."
Turns out, he wasn't that amazing; the talent level was just beneath him. He never played a down in the NFL.
Just to clarify, my examples were just in response to Baalke's willingness to draft small-schoolers, not to point out DIII players, because of course I do know none of those guys came DIII. If I were to use DIII success stories, I'd point out a guy like Pierre Garcon, Danny Woodhead or Joique Bell -- the second and third guys are both prospects who I brought this board's attention to actually
. Bell may be the starter in Detroit next season. We all know about Woodhead and Garcon. In the cases of these players, their success was so far above the level of domination that it was hard to come up with a word for it.
For DIII, when I evaluate them, aside from watching their game footage, their production needs to be 150%. By that I mean, 100% domination, plus 50% more. If the footage checks out, I need to see the 3000+ yard seasons like Bell and Woodhead had. Even then there was a learning curve and an adjustment in year one. But you saw both players start to "get it" by year two or three because they were simply good football players at a level so so far beneath them it was silly.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Mar 2, 2015 at 4:29 PM ]