Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
You're right on point. I think people think 4.3 is necessary for a speed receiver. Not true. IMHO, one of the best deep threat speed WR is Torrey Smith and he had a 4.43 forty. Ellington is right there at 4.45
So. there are at least two members who think that Baalke drafted a wide receiver that is fast enough to stretch the field.
I do not feel as lonely.
I'm with you buck! You're not alone. See, people need to look at our other personnel as well. With the obvious attention given to Crabtree, Boldin and VD, shifty guys like Stevie (lots of moves in his route running) and Ellington (both from the slot so this means they are uncontested) could easily sift through and sneak behind the secondary as deep threats. And even Patton runs in the 4.4's. We scored a couple TD's with VD (4.3) from this same concept. It's the other 10 players that often contribute to this "deep threat" idea.
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Not only does he have fast football speed He knows how to get open,how to find the soft spots in a zone defense,Ellington is slippery to,I watched some of his game tapes and I`m still trying to figure out how does he get open,not to get off subject,but I havce seen Johnson tape too and this guy has some really slick-shifty moves like the one he put ondick-sherm,that move had me cracking up he made dick-sherm look real silly and he tried to grab and was left grabbing air...classic,if patton get more of a chance to play he has some shiftiness to him to,Ellinton will be our field-strecher along with Davis look out LOB you are gonna have play real man to man defense this year.
OK. I no longer feel lonely. Now it is starting to get crowded in here.
I am starting to feel claustrophobic.
I agree with you, I think that Ellington will stretch the field.
In the pre-draft thread, I am sure someone noted that he'd got off to a bad start at the combine and that impacted his time. Certainly watching the combine tape of him, it looks like he stutters a bit in the first 2/3 steps, it's not a smooth start.
Edit: I should also say I originally thought that we should move up in this draft for a WR but the more I reflect, the more I think it was right not to. WR is the position that takes longest to develop in the NFL, even guys from pro ready offences still struggle. Beyond the issue of potential injury to that star pick costing a team 3+draft picks, there is also the issue in skill positions that it takes time to learn and develop.
WR and CB are the two positions that are hardest to learn at an NFL position. I think the FO has been bang on in drafting a number of lower round guys with physical gifts who have impressed in interviews than selling the farm in trying to get a quick hit and then having that high pick not produce or take longer to develo.
Obviously our FO plan now is to draft a number of guys with potential in these areas to develop behind the veteran starters. With the money being paid to top tier WRs and CBs - look at Revis and Sherman - it doesn't make a lot of sense for FO's to barrel a load of picks for a player in a skill position that may or may not transition fully to the NFL, and if they do may demand mega money if they are in the top tier at that position.
[ Edited by Buchy on May 13, 2014 at 7:43 AM ]