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MadDog49er's FInal Draft Review and Niners' Draft Grade

Originally posted by znk916:
Bruce Ellington: A+
The battle is on between him and Patton to step up as our long term 3rd WR and possible starter. With such a deep WR draft, Baalke played it perfectly to land him at 106.
For now, Ellington could be a slot-WR and returner only whereas Patton can be lined up on the outside too. I think that Patton could emerge to a very good #2-WR in 2015.

Ramsey: F
I don't see how this guy has any future in the league. He's old and injury prone. Unless Tomsula personally requested this pick, it was wasted, even for a 7th rounder lol.
Let's say, he needs about 2 years to be at least an effective backup. Then, he will be 27. Barring serious injuries, he could be good for about 5-7 years then.
Otherwise, it is still a 7th-rounder, who cares?
Pretty good evaluation overall.

I will downgrade Borland for the very reasons you stated. The 13th pick in the 3rd rd and no real chance to become a future starter and will pretty much be depth for his career. Grade C- My pick would have been Phillip Gaines.

As for Lynch a couple of interesting thoughts. The analysts on espn stated at Notre Dame as a freshman he outplayed Stephen Tuitt before he transferred. I read his college coach is Harbaugh's best friend and was his best man at his wedding. I have to believe Harbaugh knows Lynch better than any player we drafted and believes in him. His best friend would have given him any red flags. He certainly has the physical talent to warrant a 5th rd pick. He has real potential. Hopefully he realises it. Gambling a 5th rd pick on a player who has the potential to play like a 2nd rd or 3rd rd pick isn't a bad gamble to take. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team one bit. Who else was still on the board we could have drafted that we couldn't have gotten in the 6th rd or 7th rd if we wanted them? I will grade this pick as a B.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Great work this year. It was crazy how closely your board mirrored Baalke's at the top of the draft, nailing the first 3 picks. Like you said, probably won't happen again in a million years, so I'll expect the usual C- grades going forward.

I understand the low grade on Lynch. To me, it's worth a shot given his unlimited potential, but it is a long shot. Not a very dependable person, he has issues. Really talented kid and I hope he pans out. He could be a scary 3rd down pass rusher for us if he commits. Couple years from now this pick will probably be either an A or F, no in-between.

Kaleb Ramsey is interesting to me. Did not know anything about him before the draft, and I had to chuckle when we selected him. Yet another injury prone player chosen by the 49ers. But from what I've read he's a talented, versatile lineman. Reading his scouting report reminded me a little of Ray McDonald. Will be interesting if he can push for a spot on the d-line.


Ramsey size similar with McDonald, and history of injuries as well. However, not nearly as productive, and weaker program for sure. We'll see how he pans out.
Originally posted by znk916:
Jimmie Ward: A
We've been complaining for years about needing a ballhawk in the secondary to put our defense over the top. We finally got one, and he has a clear role to step into before taking over for Bethea in a couple years. ER Ward, don't even need a nickname for our future safeties. Only reason I don't give this pick an A+ is because he won't be a full time player right away.

Carlos Hyde: A-
Emotionally I hated this pick because I'm a huge fan of Gore and Lattimore. I'm sure Baalke is too, but with Gore's age and Lattimore's uncertain health, there's no question this was the right pick to ensure that our offense retains its power first mentality for years to come. Knocking this grade down a few notches because for a 2nd round pick, you'd like to have a guy step into a larger role right away. That being said, even if he only handles 5 carries per game as a rookie, those carries are likely to occur in crucial high leverage short yardage situations.

Marcus Martin: A+++++++++++
In my opinion the most crucial pick of the draft because if he beats out Kilgore, he will step into 1000+ starter snaps right away, meaning he could end up having the biggest impact right away in this rookie class, not to mention his potential going forward since he is only 20 yrs old!! Goodwin was a solid center but more of a technician than a road grader. Since Roman's go-to short yardage play is cramming every single lineman we have into a 10 yard box and then trying to ram Gore up the middle, having Martin lead the way is a godsend. I'm not gonna lie, I think we are screwed if he can't beat out Kilgore...do you really think we can run on Seattle at their place with Kilgore manning the middle?

Chris Borland aka T-Rex: A-
Totally overlooked pick. As we found out last year, every single regular season game is crucial in the battle for home field and we can't afford to drop any games by having a converted safety playing ILB (Wilhoite) while Bo is hurt. We don't even know if Bo will be back this year. Borland won't compete for DPOY, but we shouldn't miss a beat with him stepping in alongside Willis. Make no mistake, he will start over Wilhoite...it won't even be a competition, you can't teach the instincts this guy has. Can't give him a higher grade though because he may not have anything more than a ST role once Bo is back full time.

Brandon Thomas: A+
Iupati's successor. Sorry Mike, you are my favorite lineman but you never developed into more than just a road grader. Thomas has the potential to be that and even more.

Bruce Ellington: A+
The battle is on between him and Patton to step up as our long term 3rd WR and possible starter. With such a deep WR draft, Baalke played it perfectly to land him at 106.

Stevie Johnson: A+++++
If I understand correctly, we essentially got him for a 7th rounder. His cap numbers are very reasonable going forward. I don't see us keeping Crab with what he's going to cost, especially since Stevie probably matches up better against Seattle with his ability to get separation.

As for the rest:

Johnson/Reaser/Acker: A
Bit of a shotgun approach here and trusting in our coaching staff to develop these guys. No complaints about the strategy here late in the draft. Would not surprise me if one of these guys turns into a regular a few years down the line.

Lynch: D
His postdraft interview hints at a lot of his problems (referring to himself as a first-round talent pretty much tells you that he still doesn't get it) but in such a weak OLB draft, might as well take the risk later rather than earlier. Wouldn't be surprised if the UDFA Breslin makes it over him, not that I know anything about him but at least he seems to have his head on straight.

Ramsey: F
I don't see how this guy has any future in the league. He's old and injury prone. Unless Tomsula personally requested this pick, it was wasted, even for a 7th rounder lol.

Millard: A+
We saw what happened after Bruce Miller got hurt last year. It was a travesty watching Boobie try to play FB, should've just had Tukuafu in there to mash people. Given his versatility, maybe he pushes our 3rd TE off the roster. The team will probably take it slow with his recovery, but I think he's real threat to make the roster and get some snaps as a rookie if he is healthy.


Overall: A-
Two major issues keeping this from a perfect grade:
1. Cully is still penciled in as a starter. Coming off the ACL, can't stay out of the news and not sure if anyone remembers since it was so long ago. but last time he was on the field he was getting toasted repeatedly in the SB.
2. Who the is our punt returner, and don't tell me LMJ. This franchise just DGAF about punt return position. Meanwhile it seems like in half of our excruciating postseason losses, the other team got a huge punt return against us, including last yr.

Otherwise by my count, we got two guys who can be full-time starters as rookies (Martin, Borland), two more guys who will play over half the snaps (Ward, Stevie), and two others who could have regular roles (Hyde short yardage and apparently Ellington is a candidate for punt returns despite only having 3 for 16 yds in his college career).

Long term, Ward, Martin, Stevie, Hyde, and Thomas, could all be full-time starters. Millard and Ellington could be regular rotational players, and there's a good chance one of the late DB picks will emerge as a regular too. This draft could easily wipe away the 2012 disaster and keep us as contenders for the foreseeable future even after the old guard is gone. Now let's just hope that these guys make enough of an immediate impact to send out Gore and Cowboy with a ring.


Good analysis. Thanks for the effort.
Originally posted by buck:
Since I am not giving a grade to the draft, I will not speak to the grade being giving.

In my estimation, the pick of Lynch in the fifth round was a risky pick. But, it seems that the team did the required due diligence and if we consider the fact that the team had sources with direct knowledge of Lynch that they knew and trusted, I would say that the team went beyond the required due diligence.

They took a risk on a fifth round pick. There is no need to rush to judgment. We will see, sooner or later, if they made a good call--and that pertains to the entire draft.

For me the picking of Sam by the Rams has no particular importance.

I have absolutely no insight as to their motives for picked Sam, but barring some evidence to the contrary, and speculation does not constitute evidence, I have no choice but to think that drafting Sam was a legitimate football decision.



Could be right on Sam. I just think the league wanted to do something to not appear homophobic. I could be entirely wrong. I just don't buy that he was a legit prospect since this offseason.
Originally posted by Oldschool9erfan:
Maddog you take a lot of crap from the board because you have a strong opinion, it's nice to hear a good review of the niners draft way to nail the first three. You put in the most time on the forum for this, and we all enjoy it. GREAT JOB!!

That being said.....I think Lynch has potential, he's a guy that was a high round talent. He played last year undersized from the Adderall. Yes, he could be a bust, but it's a 5th round pick that we had two.

Can't wait to see Ward, Martin, Hyde and Ellington in action.


Lot to look forward to next year. Preseason should be more enjoyable to watch than normal.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Sadly, I agree with you.

Here's a rhetorical question for ya... who is head of the NFL Competition Committee and has close ties to Roger Goodell and the league office?

Why that'd be St. Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher.


Can look at this two ways: Either the conspiracy theorists, like me, smell something rotten, and it is a legit. Or, I am wrong, and Fischer feels he was draft worthy and his team can work Sam into the NFL without issue.
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Thanks for all your work analyzing these drafts for us, I know it's something I couldn't do for sure. Another thing that struck me is how much that Seahawks loss seemed to guide the 49ers moving forward.

Case in point:

- 49ers couldn't stop the deep pass <-- 49ers select J.Ward.
- 49ers lost Bowman and Seattle starts running successfully. <-- 49ers select Borland.
- 49ers lost Iupati and the run game, the entire offense really, fell off a cliff. <-- 49ers select 2 interior lineman.
- 49ers receivers can't get open. <-- S.Johnson, B.Lloyd, B.Ellington.

I could be way out to lunch here but the hindsight seems 20/20 now for me.


The analysis makes a lot of sense. Teams will change rosters, make selections, etc. based on matchup issues they will face in the future. Look at what the AFC South did after JJ Watt blew them apart two years ago. The Titans last year drafted a guard in the first round (Warmack), threw down a ton of money to secure one of highest free agent players in the NFL in Adam Levitre, then drafted Tyler Lewan this year. They have to stop Watt if they want to win, and adding Clowney makes it even more challenging. The Colts picked up Gosder Cherilus in free agency, Lance Louis in free agency, Donald Thomas in free agency, draft Hugh Thorton, draft Khalil Hughes. The Jags spent their first rounder in 2013 on Joeckel. Teams make these adjustments to rosters regularly.
Originally posted by communist:
Why should they pick a WR, regardless of his talent, in a wr-heavy draft when they need a franchise QB badly? I don't get your critique at all, to be honest. Just spend a look at Gordon or Megatron respectively (btw, dont forget where Gordon was picked):
do they win games for their teams on a constant basis? NO.

On the other hand, I hear you about the pass-rush deficiency. Still, I would have done (almost) the same. Perhaps they wanted to trade down but no one wanted to trade up. Other possibility: Bortles was THEIR guy and they didn't want to lose him.

To be honest, I am a big supporter of reaching for QBs.

BTW, the Jags drafted Lee and Robinson. And they added some DEs to their roster during FA.

THIS. I don't get the celebration by some people either.

Still, a 5th-rounder. And as you stated, your favorite prospect went undrafted.
I assume that Lynch would have been picked by the Bengals anyway.

Weeks ago, I wanted to pick Coleman even earlier. He seems to be an almost prototypical 34-DE though according to scouting reports, he is rather a run-stuffing than pass-rushing DE. Ramsey, according to nfl.com, possesses more athletic talent so that there is a chance that he could serve as #3 RDE.


Good arguments across the board.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by buck:
Since I am not giving a grade to the draft, I will not speak to the grade being giving.

In my estimation, the pick of Lynch in the fifth round was a risky pick. But, it seems that the team did the required due diligence and if we consider the fact that the team had sources with direct knowledge of Lynch that they knew and trusted, I would say that the team went beyond the required due diligence.

They took a risk on a fifth round pick. There is no need to rush to judgment. We will see, sooner or later, if they made a good call--and that pertains to the entire draft.

For me the picking of Sam by the Rams has no particular importance.

I have absolutely no insight as to their motives for picked Sam, but barring some evidence to the contrary, and speculation does not constitute evidence, I have no choice but to think that drafting Sam was a legitimate football decision.



Could be right on Sam. I just think the league wanted to do something to not appear homophobic. I could be entirely wrong. I just don't buy that he was a legit prospect since this offseason.

what a joke of a statement

Yeah Roger Goodell made the rams take him cause he was gay
lol WAT

Maybe if he was taken in the first 3 rounds you would have some kind of point but the dude was drafted 8th from last.

The rams had 4 picks in the 7th round
His ESPN draft grade was 43 (26 other players were selected in Rnd 7 with a lower grade)
16 players with a lower draft grade were taken in Rnd 6

He was projected in rounds 3-4 before his poor showing at the combine and dropped

If the rams didn't take him he would have singed with another team after the draft
If the rams think they can get him into shape he has potential

If he doesn't put in the effort needed in the nfl he will be cut like any other 7th rounder that didn't pan out.
The drafting of Sam was definitely orchestrated by the NFL. Did anyone really think that ESPN was going to have a live camera on Sam and he go undrafted? The kiss with his lover was also orchestrated. The NFL has an agenda and they orchestrate alot of the outcomes of big games. Do I think the NFL tells the officials to make bad calls on certain teams no but I think they tell the officials to let certain things go(physical play by Seattle's DB's).
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by buck:
Since I am not giving a grade to the draft, I will not speak to the grade being giving.

In my estimation, the pick of Lynch in the fifth round was a risky pick. But, it seems that the team did the required due diligence and if we consider the fact that the team had sources with direct knowledge of Lynch that they knew and trusted, I would say that the team went beyond the required due diligence.

They took a risk on a fifth round pick. There is no need to rush to judgment. We will see, sooner or later, if they made a good call--and that pertains to the entire draft.

For me the picking of Sam by the Rams has no particular importance.

I have absolutely no insight as to their motives for picked Sam, but barring some evidence to the contrary, and speculation does not constitute evidence, I have no choice but to think that drafting Sam was a legitimate football decision.



Could be right on Sam. I just think the league wanted to do something to not appear homophobic. I could be entirely wrong. I just don't buy that he was a legit prospect since this offseason.

what a joke of a statement

Yeah Roger Goodell made the rams take him cause he was gay
lol WAT

Maybe if he was taken in the first 3 rounds you would have some kind of point but the dude was drafted 8th from last.

The rams had 4 picks in the 7th round
His ESPN draft grade was 43 (26 other players were selected in Rnd 7 with a lower grade)
16 players with a lower draft grade were taken in Rnd 6

He was projected in rounds 3-4 before his poor showing at the combine and dropped

If the rams didn't take him he would have singed with another team after the draft
If the rams think they can get him into shape he has potential

If he doesn't put in the effort needed in the nfl he will be cut like any other 7th rounder that didn't pan out.

Nonetheless, it is an exceptional PR move by the St.Louis Rams. I do hope Michael Sam pans out at the pro level.
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
The drafting of Sam was definitely orchestrated by the NFL. Did anyone really think that ESPN was going to have a live camera on Sam and he go undrafted? The kiss with his lover was also orchestrated. The NFL has an agenda and they orchestrate alot of the outcomes of big games. Do I think the NFL tells the officials to make bad calls on certain teams no but I think they tell the officials to let certain things go(physical play by Seattle's DB's).

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349452/article/st-louis-rams-draft-michael-sam-make-nfl-history

then this is also all made up and you should prob stop watching the WWENFL
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by znk916:
Bruce Ellington: A+
The battle is on between him and Patton to step up as our long term 3rd WR and possible starter. With such a deep WR draft, Baalke played it perfectly to land him at 106.
For now, Ellington could be a slot-WR and returner only whereas Patton can be lined up on the outside too. I think that Patton could emerge to a very good #2-WR in 2015.

Ramsey: F
I don't see how this guy has any future in the league. He's old and injury prone. Unless Tomsula personally requested this pick, it was wasted, even for a 7th rounder lol.
Let's say, he needs about 2 years to be at least an effective backup. Then, he will be 27. Barring serious injuries, he could be good for about 5-7 years then.
Otherwise, it is still a 7th-rounder, who cares?

Can I do takebacks? lol

I think I was too inspired by MadDog's harsh grading when I trashed Ramsey. The guy clearly does have some physical talent and DL typically can play into their mid-30s without dropping off a cliff. I just find it hard to believe he will somehow stay healthy enough to be a long-term contributor. Playing in the trenches is not for the fragile.

I gave Lynch a D, but honestly I think he was worth the risk in the 5th round even if I doubt he will ever get his head on straight. At that point, go big or go home, right?

Frankly I'm more curious about UDFA Breslin. 17.5 sacks in 18 games is quite the production plus another 28 sacks over two years in juco? MadDog u got more info on this guy? Seems like a natural pass rusher.
Good analysis. Really enjoy reading your posts.

Disgree with you about the Browns though. I'm not much of a JFF fan but i do think he will be good and to me they seemed to stick by there board as much as they could. They might not have had WRs ranked that high, like us, even though it was viewed as a need so i have no fault with who they selected.