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Grade the 49ers Entire Draft & UDFA Signings!
Grade the 49ers Entire Draft & UDFA Signings!
May 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Our special teams coverage unit will be fun to watch with the addition of Borland... the hits he is gonna be layin, oh man cant wait!
May 11, 2014 at 7:07 PM
- Quest4six
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Originally posted by buck:
Sarcastic humor--I assume.
Buck, you are slowly becoming my favorite. I'm glad you caught that, you should consider yourself smarter than some webzoners
Originally posted by juycho:
What a seachicken statement. Go back to Seattle.
May 11, 2014 at 7:08 PM
- nannite
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Originally posted by Jd925:
2nd) Carlos Hyde RB B+: Star potential on another team, but I prefer Lattimore so I see a backup role. Gore's backup role is still up for grabs. Would be A, but downgraded to B+ because we have Lattimore.
If Hyde has the potential to be a star, why would it be bad if he is behind lattimore? If Hyde becomes a star, the only way he will be behind Lattimore is if Lattimore is a better star. Thats not a bad thing.
May 11, 2014 at 7:13 PM
- Oldschool9erfan
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I forgot about Jonathan Martin. That was a great move by Baalke, picking up a swing tackle at a low price.
Blaine Gabbert could flourish in our system, we have such a better team than Jacksonvile and he has very similar size and speed as kaepernick he was better than anyone we could pick up in the draft.
Blaine Gabbert could flourish in our system, we have such a better team than Jacksonvile and he has very similar size and speed as kaepernick he was better than anyone we could pick up in the draft.
May 11, 2014 at 7:28 PM
- Broseph6
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Everyone thinks gore is gna be this back that runs for a lot of yards he's 31 years old he started tailing off last year Hyde and latimore could take a huge chunk of his carries
May 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM
- ChipDouglas510
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Originally posted by AmpLee:Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:A
You had me at "A"
Lol
May 11, 2014 at 7:50 PM
- SnakePlissken
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I grade this f**king draft an 'S', which is higher than an A. The 49ers finished the game in under two hours, and didn't need to waste a single save, they've unlocked the secret rocket launcher.
May 11, 2014 at 7:53 PM
- ChipDouglas510
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:I grade this f**king draft an 'S', which is higher than an A. The 49ers finished the game in under two hours, and didn't need to waste a single save, they've unlocked the secret rocket launcher.
May 11, 2014 at 7:56 PM
- Ninerjohn
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This draft is an A. There was no need to go out and get a WR in rounds 1 or 2 with the addition of Stevie Johnson. Instead, the Niners focused on grabbing the best DB that could contribute right away in the nickle and then take the BPA.
I think they grabbed at least 3 players that will be starters by year 2, Hyde, Martin, and Ward, as well as several guys who will be key backups and solid special teams players. They also got the dynamic speed guy to contribute right away in the slot.
Seriously, I dont see how anyone could give this draft anything lower than an A-
I think they grabbed at least 3 players that will be starters by year 2, Hyde, Martin, and Ward, as well as several guys who will be key backups and solid special teams players. They also got the dynamic speed guy to contribute right away in the slot.
Seriously, I dont see how anyone could give this draft anything lower than an A-
May 11, 2014 at 8:23 PM
- fryet
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Good:
Quality Rd1 Safety
trade for a proven WR
Players they drafted appear to be top notch, value picks
Bad:
Drafted too many players - they will be cutting starters for other teams
Did not manage to trade for many future round picks
Did not do an adequate enough job filling open CB position (assuming Culliver isn't allowed to play) - trusting that a 4th round pick will be a good starter is a big risk
Overall: B
Final Thought: If the 12 picks make the roster, then that will mean that they will be cutting players drafted in the past 2 years. Either those drafts were abysmal, or more likely they are quality players that are showed the door too early to make room for the new shiny picks. The only way to salvage this is if the 49ers manage to trade some of their players for next year draft picks like Parys Harrilson (I know I just butchered his name). Even then, you are probably making trades like LMj (2nd rd) for a 6th rd pick.
Quality Rd1 Safety
trade for a proven WR
Players they drafted appear to be top notch, value picks
Bad:
Drafted too many players - they will be cutting starters for other teams
Did not manage to trade for many future round picks
Did not do an adequate enough job filling open CB position (assuming Culliver isn't allowed to play) - trusting that a 4th round pick will be a good starter is a big risk
Overall: B
Final Thought: If the 12 picks make the roster, then that will mean that they will be cutting players drafted in the past 2 years. Either those drafts were abysmal, or more likely they are quality players that are showed the door too early to make room for the new shiny picks. The only way to salvage this is if the 49ers manage to trade some of their players for next year draft picks like Parys Harrilson (I know I just butchered his name). Even then, you are probably making trades like LMj (2nd rd) for a 6th rd pick.
May 11, 2014 at 8:37 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Originally posted by fryet:Who did we draft in the 1st 4 rounds that won't make the team? Any players they bump will be an upgrade for us. Lynch in the 5th rd is an interesting prospect. The analysts on espn said he outplayed Tuitt his freshman yr at Notre Dame. He finished playing for a coach who I believe was Harbaugh's best friend and best man at his wedding so I have to believe Harbaugh really knows what we got when drafting him. 2 and maybe 3 of the remaining players drafted are pup list candidates which really leaves our 6th rd CB and possibly 7th rd DL. Due to an injury history I believe the 7th rd DL could make it to the practice squad if he doesn't make the team or pup list. That leaves our 6th rd pick at CB. He may not make the team. If he does he will be cheaper against the cap than the players he beat out. Brown was a 5th rd pick and Brock a UDFA so let's see him play before we pass judgement.
Good:
Quality Rd1 Safety
trade for a proven WR
Players they drafted appear to be top notch, value picks
Bad:
Drafted too many players - they will be cutting starters for other teams
Did not manage to trade for many future round picks
Did not do an adequate enough job filling open CB position (assuming Culliver isn't allowed to play) - trusting that a 4th round pick will be a good starter is a big risk
Overall: B
Final Thought: If the 12 picks make the roster, then that will mean that they will be cutting players drafted in the past 2 years. Either those drafts were abysmal, or more likely they are quality players that are showed the door too early to make room for the new shiny picks. The only way to salvage this is if the 49ers manage to trade some of their players for next year draft picks like Parys Harrilson (I know I just butchered his name). Even then, you are probably making trades like LMj (2nd rd) for a 6th rd pick.
May 11, 2014 at 8:46 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by fryet:
Good:
Quality Rd1 Safety
trade for a proven WR
Players they drafted appear to be top notch, value picks
Bad:
Drafted too many players - they will be cutting starters for other teams
Did not manage to trade for many future round picks
Did not do an adequate enough job filling open CB position (assuming Culliver isn't allowed to play) - trusting that a 4th round pick will be a good starter is a big risk
Overall: B
Final Thought: If the 12 picks make the roster, then that will mean that they will be cutting players drafted in the past 2 years. Either those drafts were abysmal, or more likely they are quality players that are showed the door too early to make room for the new shiny picks. The only way to salvage this is if the 49ers manage to trade some of their players for next year draft picks like Parys Harrilson (I know I just butchered his name). Even then, you are probably making trades like LMj (2nd rd) for a 6th rd pick.
It's about competition. If guys from previous drafts get cut in favor of newer talent, it just means your team is getting better, stronger and deeper. That can't be a bad thing. Besides, just about every good team loses quality players because of the annual "numbers game." But this team does a good job of keeping MOST of the guys it really wants to keep, knowing you just can't keep everyone.
As for 4th round CBs, Seattle has done pretty good in that area (Sherman was a 5th rounder, Browner was a UDFA, Walter Thurmond was a 4th rounder and Byron Maxwell was a 6th rounder). Only one of our current starting CBs was even drafted (Cully), while the other was a UDFA (Brock). Point being, teams that know how to draft for the secondary can and do get away with lower round prospects at corner.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on May 11, 2014 at 8:52 PM ]
May 11, 2014 at 9:40 PM
- znk916
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My main gripe is that we didn't get a clear upgrade over Cully. Because of his injury and off field concerns, I'm not even sure if people remember that the last time we saw him play, he was getting toasted in the SB. So yeah, it's a pretty big leap of faith to get comfortable with the idea of him playing 1000+ snaps as a starter.
That being said, I don't know if I would've been on board with trading up for Dennard or Verrett in the 20s. I'm more than pleased with how things played out selecting Ward at 30, because his presence at nickel corner indirectly creates more competition for Cully by pushing Wright and Cox out there. Personally I think Wright looked good for us last year, and I'd favor starting him over Cully, but camp competition will sort all of it out. Like others have pointed out, we've been very good at developing late and undrafted corners, so I wouldn't sleep on Johnson or Acker at all.
That being said, I don't know if I would've been on board with trading up for Dennard or Verrett in the 20s. I'm more than pleased with how things played out selecting Ward at 30, because his presence at nickel corner indirectly creates more competition for Cully by pushing Wright and Cox out there. Personally I think Wright looked good for us last year, and I'd favor starting him over Cully, but camp competition will sort all of it out. Like others have pointed out, we've been very good at developing late and undrafted corners, so I wouldn't sleep on Johnson or Acker at all.
May 12, 2014 at 1:15 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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You also have to add to this "draft class":
1.) Blaine Gabbert, backup QB
2.) Jonathan Martin, backup OT
3.) Stevie Johnson, WR
4.) Marcus Lattimore, RB (redshirt last year)
5.) Tank Carradine, DE (redshirt last year)
6.) Quinton Dial, DE/OLB (pretty much redshirted)
7.) Jimmie Ward, CB/S
8.) Carlos Hyde, RB
9.) Marcus Martin, C
10.) Chris Borland, ILB
11.) Brandon Thomas, OL
12.) Bruce Ellington, WR/ST
13.) Dontae Johnson, CB
14.) Aaron Lynch, DE/OLB
15.) Keith Reaser, CB
16.) Kenneth Acker, CB
17.) Kaleb Ramsey, DL
18.) Trey Millard, FB/HB
1.) Blaine Gabbert, backup QB
2.) Jonathan Martin, backup OT
3.) Stevie Johnson, WR
4.) Marcus Lattimore, RB (redshirt last year)
5.) Tank Carradine, DE (redshirt last year)
6.) Quinton Dial, DE/OLB (pretty much redshirted)
7.) Jimmie Ward, CB/S
8.) Carlos Hyde, RB
9.) Marcus Martin, C
10.) Chris Borland, ILB
11.) Brandon Thomas, OL
12.) Bruce Ellington, WR/ST
13.) Dontae Johnson, CB
14.) Aaron Lynch, DE/OLB
15.) Keith Reaser, CB
16.) Kenneth Acker, CB
17.) Kaleb Ramsey, DL
18.) Trey Millard, FB/HB
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on May 12, 2014 at 1:18 AM ]
May 12, 2014 at 1:25 AM
- znk916
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cant wait for Tank, more pass rush please