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Do Ellington and Patton have roughly identical scouting reports, strengths/weaknesses?

Correct me if I'm wrong. Quicker than fast, undersized, moderate KR/PR experience, good feel for the position, solid hands, etc.

Opinions on them both sticking? Patton has the edge of a year in the system.
Ellington is faster. Patton is a better route runner, both have top-notch hands, Patton had the fewest drops of any WR in the 2013 draft, Ellington has very reliable hands in his own right. Ellington is more explosive, a better leaper, attacks the ball in the air like a basketball player, which of course he was. Patton tends to be better catching passes in a crowd. Neither guy is afraid to go across the middle.

Both have good lateral movement, short area quickness. Patton was a lot more consistent and productive in college. Ellington split his focus on football and basketball so I think that prevented him from ever reaching his full college football potential.


I see Ellington as more of a slot receiver/deep threat, Patton as more of a possession receiver type who can play in the slot or on the outside.


They both approach the game with the right mindset, hard workers, extremely dedicated, good character guys that drew praise from coaches. I think both of them comprise the future of a 49ers receiving corps along with hopefully....Michael Crabtree.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 10, 2014 at 9:54 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Ellington is faster. Patton is a better route runner, both have top-notch hands, Patton had the fewest drops of any WR in the 2013 draft, Ellington has very reliable hands in his own right. Ellington is more explosive, a better leaper, attacks the ball in the air like a basketball player, which of course he was. Patton tends to be better catching passes in a crowd. Neither guy is afraid to go across the middle.

Both have good lateral movement, short area quickness. Patton was a lot more consistent and productive in college. Ellington split his focus on football and basketball so I think that prevented him from ever reaching his full college football potential.


I see Ellington as more of a slot receiver/deep threat, Patton as more of a possession receiver type who can play in the slot or on the outside.


They both approach the game with the right mindset, hard workers, extremely dedicated, good character guys that drew praise from coaches. I think both of them comprise the future of a 49ers receiving corps along with hopefully....Michael Crabtree.

Hey really appreciate the detail. Nice to think of them both being in the top 3 long term, despite being little guys.
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Hey really appreciate the detail. Nice to think of them both being in the top 3 long term, despite being little guys.

Neither is really "little." Patton is 6'0" and 205, I'm sure he'll add some more weight over time. Ellington is only 5'9" but he's like 197, built very solid and thick. Neither is a Paul Richardson type or anything like that. For comparison's sake, Ellington weighs basically the same as Justin Hunter did last year when he was drafted...except Hunter was 6'4".
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Hey really appreciate the detail. Nice to think of them both being in the top 3 long term, despite being little guys.

Neither is really "little." Patton is 6'0" and 205, I'm sure he'll add some more weight over time. Ellington is only 5'9" but he's like 197, built very solid and thick. Neither is a Paul Richardson type or anything like that. For comparison's sake, Ellington weighs basically the same as Justin Hunter did last year when he was drafted...except Hunter was 6'4".

Good call. I've fallen into the lazy 49er fan trap of wanting that 6'5" prototype. Glad Trent looks for football players instead.
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Good call. I've fallen into the lazy 49er fan trap of wanting that 6'5" prototype. Glad Trent looks for football players instead.

I'd love to have a skilled 6'5" guy but they are far and few between. I'll take a smaller guy who is a better route runner and has better hands than a big guy who doesn't move as well laterally and isn't as skilled as a receiver. Had the 49ers drafted Mike Evans, I wouldn't even have been mad. Jordan Matthews is another guy I'd be interested in but it wasn't to be so we'll see what happens with Crabtree. For right now, the 49ers have two tough-as-nails, physical, well-built receivers in Boldin and Johnson. I've seen Johnson absolutely destroy press coverage and he seems to relish contact so that was a brilliant acquisition by Baalke, I can't stress that enough. I'd like to see Ellington develop as a slot guy, he does a great job creating separation and that will only further improve as he gets better at running routes.

Crabtree
Boldin
Johnson
Patton
Ellington
Osgood
*Baldwin
*Lloyd

For the first time in a LONG time, I can look at the 49ers WR corps and say "wow, looks good!!!"
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 10, 2014 at 10:07 PM ]
Would you trade LMJ for Stephen Hill? Lol..
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Would you trade LMJ for Stephen Hill? Lol..

LOL, I think I would trade LMJ for a case of motor oil at this point. I think he was drafted when they thought they were going into spread offense mode, more pistol...etc....and it just didn't work out. I'm still not down on him as a returner but if he truly doesn't want to be here, then there is no point in keeping him here. My ultimate feeling is that Brandon Jacobs really played a big role in the way James has behaved and his pouting, he really poisoned the well, that and James being entitled and expecting s**t to be handed to him.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Good call. I've fallen into the lazy 49er fan trap of wanting that 6'5" prototype. Glad Trent looks for football players instead.

I'd love to have a skilled 6'5" guy but they are far and few between. I'll take a smaller guy who is a better route runner and has better hands than a big guy who doesn't move as well laterally and isn't as skilled as a receiver. Had the 49ers drafted Mike Evans, I wouldn't even have been mad. Jordan Matthews is another guy I'd be interested in but it wasn't to be so we'll see what happens with Crabtree. For right now, the 49ers have two tough-as-nails, physical, well-built receivers in Boldin and Johnson. I've seen Johnson absolutely destroy press coverage and he seems to relish contact so that was a brilliant acquisition by Baalke, I can't stress that enough. I'd like to see Ellington develop as a slot guy, he does a great job creating separation and that will only further improve as he gets better at running routes.

Crabtree
Boldin
Johnson
Patton
Ellington
Osgood
*Baldwin
*Lloyd

For the first time in a LONG time, I can look at the 49ers WR corps and say "wow, looks good!!!"

Does look like a good corps. Frankly the whole roster looks freaking awesome, to no one's surprise. Biggest question marks on the roster are whether Aldon Smith and Chris Culliver can continue to have, you know, NFL careers.
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:
Does look like a good corps. Frankly the whole roster looks freaking awesome, to no one's surprise. Biggest question marks on the roster are whether Aldon Smith and Chris Culliver can continue to have, you know, NFL careers.

Here's another difference between Patton and Ellington. Ellington frequently gets compared to Randall Cobb of the Packers while Patton was frequently compared to Reggie Wayne. Not to say its a perfect comparison or anything but it does illustrate well that they are dfferent types of receivers, different purposes but both valuable in their own right.
im glad they are both 9ers!