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LMJeff's FIRST Mock

Originally posted by LaMichaelJeff:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Assuming your 4th rd pick Larsen makes the team and bumps 1 of our veteran back ups off the roster you then want to use a 5th round pick to draft G Zach Fulton who as you state "is still very raw" in hopes of bumping a 2nd vet off the roster?

And the history of our draft means absolutely nothing. We have a very deep team. We were so deep last year we were trading good players for 7th rd picks just to make room on the roster and this year will be even tougher. We didn't have this kind of depth in the past so past drafts don't really apply.

I could see the 49ers drafting a G early if they projected him as next years starter to replace Iupati but to spend a 5th rd pick on a player you say is still very raw to compete with quality established vets I would rather pass on. This draft is deep and there will be players we could get in round 5 that will be able to help us. I would prefer to draft 1 of them rather than a very raw player at a position where we already have good players on the team. I don't like wasting picks and seeing draft picks get cut.

Maybe we just have different ideas but I always believed that if a draft pick plays as well as you could hope for they should make the team. If they are busts or dissapointments that's different. If a UDFA surprises everyone and takes the spot you still get a great rookie.

Anything is possible but I would take a different tact.

I see what you're saying, but you say we have a real deep team, and i agree, but admit to going to a different position in the 5th round who could potentially help right away. that's the same concept IMO. if you were to take a WR, or a LB, CB, S, whatever, in the 5th round, and expect them to help, that just means you'll be bumping off a vet, right? If we were to take Fulton, who is raw with plenty of potential, why would we pass on that for a player at a different position in a very deep roster? we've had a deep roster since Harbaugh's first draft.

regardless on this debate, even with this deep draft, it will be difficult for any 5th-7th round rookie to bypass a vet. They'd have to show something real special.

We could draft a WR who slipped in the draft or a return specialist like Dri Archer or a player for the pup list like CB Aaron Colvin who would not make an impact this season but could be a big time player for us the next year or we could trade the pick for a 4th rd pick in 2015.

As for our 7th Rd picks barring a player I think is special but is not high on the other teams radar I would draft players for the pup list or trade the picks for 2015 6th Rd picks or use them to move up in earlier rounds.

Last year we drafted 3 players in Rd 7 and got 1 PS player out of it for the OL. What a waste. I would rather have traded the picks for 6th rounders this year.
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Originally posted by LaMichaelJeff:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Assuming your 4th rd pick Larsen makes the team and bumps 1 of our veteran back ups off the roster you then want to use a 5th round pick to draft G Zach Fulton who as you state "is still very raw" in hopes of bumping a 2nd vet off the roster?

And the history of our draft means absolutely nothing. We have a very deep team. We were so deep last year we were trading good players for 7th rd picks just to make room on the roster and this year will be even tougher. We didn't have this kind of depth in the past so past drafts don't really apply.

I could see the 49ers drafting a G early if they projected him as next years starter to replace Iupati but to spend a 5th rd pick on a player you say is still very raw to compete with quality established vets I would rather pass on. This draft is deep and there will be players we could get in round 5 that will be able to help us. I would prefer to draft 1 of them rather than a very raw player at a position where we already have good players on the team. I don't like wasting picks and seeing draft picks get cut.

Maybe we just have different ideas but I always believed that if a draft pick plays as well as you could hope for they should make the team. If they are busts or dissapointments that's different. If a UDFA surprises everyone and takes the spot you still get a great rookie.

Anything is possible but I would take a different tact.

I see what you're saying, but you say we have a real deep team, and i agree, but admit to going to a different position in the 5th round who could potentially help right away. that's the same concept IMO. if you were to take a WR, or a LB, CB, S, whatever, in the 5th round, and expect them to help, that just means you'll be bumping off a vet, right? If we were to take Fulton, who is raw with plenty of potential, why would we pass on that for a player at a different position in a very deep roster? we've had a deep roster since Harbaugh's first draft.

regardless on this debate, even with this deep draft, it will be difficult for any 5th-7th round rookie to bypass a vet. They'd have to show something real special.

We could draft a WR who slipped in the draft or a return specialist like Dri Archer or a player for the pup list like CB Aaron Colvin who would not make an impact this season but could be a big time player for us the next year or we could trade the pick for a 4th rd pick in 2015.

As for our 7th Rd picks barring a player I think is special but is not high on the other teams radar I would draft players for the pup list or trade the picks for 2015 6th Rd picks or use them to move up in earlier rounds.

Last year we drafted 3 players in Rd 7 and got 1 PS player out of it for the OL. What a waste. I would rather have traded the picks for 6th rounders this year.

Trades are different. Of course I expect this team to trade, but like I mentioned in my original post, this mock has NO trades for the sake of confusion.
Just hate wasting draft picks for camp competition. I want to select players that I feel would make the team if they play in preseason as well as I expect them to. If they play up to expectations and still get cut it was a wasted pick. I would rather get pup list guys who slid in the draft because they were injured, we can stash them on the pup list and we get draft value because they would have gone rounds earlier if the hadn't been injured. We could see players like G Spencer Long or S Whitley or H-Back Millard or CB Colvin available in the later rounds that might have been 2nd or 3rd round picks and in Colvin's case potentially a late 1st rounder to 2nd round talent still available. Just my philosophy.

Anyone can draft a bust but I don't want to draft players that pan out and still get cut because we simply didn't have a spot available.
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