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Originally posted by TheRedDemonWillis52:
My expectation for a big surprise the 49ers to draft is Johnny Manziel. In many mocks, he fell down to Cleveland Browns at 26th and, some of them, reached to the early 2nd round. If Manziel is still available at the 30th, I envision that Harbaugh highly suggested the 49ers to pick him. I mean, that will feel MUCH safe to have a legit #2 QB, who would've motivated Kaepernick to work harder and improve his reading field skills. Kaepernick, Manziel and Gabbert in JH's camp. That's a very high trade value for the next off season.

Would be shocked if we took the Hamburgler but the photoshop opportunities would rival the Alex Smith corndog days.
I think the surprise will be S Calvin Pryor and we'll stay put to get him most likely (he'll learn behind Reid and Bethea for a year). The next pick will be either WR Moncrief or Benjamin and the "speed guy" everyone is lusting over will be much later in the draft; a 4.2 or 4.3-guy with dynamic return abilities (i.e. a package WR for an occasional deep shot on the edge, fly sweeps, reverses, quick WR screens, etc. but he'll mostly be used as a return specialist).

Plus, it's a Baalke-like move that usually catches everyone off guard and jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 9, 2014 at 10:06 AM ]
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by TheRedDemonWillis52:
My expectation for a big surprise the 49ers to draft is Johnny Manziel. In many mocks, he fell down to Cleveland Browns at 26th and, some of them, reached to the early 2nd round. If Manziel is still available at the 30th, I envision that Harbaugh highly suggested the 49ers to pick him. I mean, that will feel MUCH safe to have a legit #2 QB, who would've motivated Kaepernick to work harder and improve his reading field skills. Kaepernick, Manziel and Gabbert in JH's camp. That's a very high trade value for the next off season.

Would be shocked if we took the Hamburgler but the photoshop opportunities would rival the Alex Smith corndog days.

SHIIIET I wouldn't even mind taking Manziel tbh hes pretty much RW just the white trash version.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Let's face it, Trent has and probably will surprise us all.

This!
Surprise, mortgage our entire first second and third round picks and draft Clowney.
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Originally posted by ninerjok:
Surprise, mortgage our entire first second and third round picks and draft Clowney.

is it me or does clowney not play with the violence matching the measureables he possesses?

for instance, watch tape on these three guys: john randle, jared allen and lawrence taylor, then watch clowney. somethings missing...and it's blatant.
Originally posted by xcfan:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Surprise, mortgage our entire first second and third round picks and draft Clowney.

is it me or does clowney not play with the violence matching the measureables he possesses?

for instance, watch tape on these three guys: john randle, jared allen and lawrence taylor, then watch clowney. somethings missing...and it's blatant.
You mean watch tape of Randle, Allen and Taylor as Pro football players of the 24+ yo age?

Didn't have to watch tape of Clowney, got to watch him live for 3 seasons. Nothing is missing.
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think the surprise will be S Calvin Pryor and we'll stay put to get him most likely (he'll learn behind Reid and Bethea for a year). The next pick will be either WR Moncrief or Benjamin and the "speed guy" everyone is lusting over will be much later in the draft; a 4.2 or 4.3-guy with dynamic return abilities (i.e. a package WR for an occasional deep shot on the edge, fly sweeps, reverses, quick WR screens, etc. but he'll mostly be used as a return specialist).

Plus, it's a Baalke-like move that usually catches everyone off guard and jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.

Done deal (LOL)

--Calvin Pryor (Louisville): Formal interview with Harbaugh and secondary coach Ed Donatell at NFL Scouting Combine.
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might be cj mosley
Only thing that is going to surprise me this draft is if we take a Qb or Fb, or Mlb within the first 3 rounds. If we do i'll be shocked. Otherwise it's going to be Wr, Secondary, Dline, and Oline not in any order.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Done deal (LOL)

--Calvin Pryor (Louisville): Formal interview with Harbaugh and secondary coach Ed Donatell at NFL Scouting Combine.

Pryor is a stud and he fits the mold of this defense, but with Reid and Bethea, it doesn't seem like the smartest way to use a 1st. I'd rather a guy like Buchanon in the 2nd, but you can't be mad with adding a talent like Pryor.

So yeah, the pick would be a surprise. BTW, I think Pryor and Buchanon are both better than HaHa.
[ Edited by strickac on Apr 12, 2014 at 5:30 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think the surprise will be S Calvin Pryor and we'll stay put to get him most likely (he'll learn behind Reid and Bethea for a year). The next pick will be either WR Moncrief or Benjamin and the "speed guy" everyone is lusting over will be much later in the draft; a 4.2 or 4.3-guy with dynamic return abilities (i.e. a package WR for an occasional deep shot on the edge, fly sweeps, reverses, quick WR screens, etc. but he'll mostly be used as a return specialist).

Plus, it's a Baalke-like move that usually catches everyone off guard and jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.

LOL. How many 4.2 guys you know in this draft?
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My guess: Baalke takes a QB and a pass rusher in the top 100 picks as insurance.

Background:

We don't move around a lot. Especially after this offseason it has become clear that despite having a very talented roster there are some variables that could inhibit the team's ability to compete long term. Aldon Smith, CK7, Ahmad Brooks etc. As well as future contract issues anticipated with Iupati & Crabtree.

A lot of early picks in a "deep" draft is a bit of a luxury. I see this as Baalke's insurance draft. There are no desperate areas of need that can addressed given our current draft position. At best for need you can go with Verrett but I can't imagine Baalke sees value in drafting a short slot corner.

So my gut is we take as close to BPA as possible and make every / almost every pick in the top 100. We trade off our later picks for future picks and sit on 6 - 7 new guys to fill roster spots. And those BPAs will include picks for not only a WR, OG and CB but a QB and pass rusher because those are the most important positions in the league and we now have questions at both of them. You are going into a new stadium you want to fill and will be hosting SB 50. You want to be a dominant franchise. Also bringing in a relatively "high" QB prospect will keep up Harbaugh's "competition" concept as well as push CK7 to keep progressing and not get too comfortable.

Some names I would throw out there considering our draft position, Baalke's draft history and rudimentary review of scouting profiles.

Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech.
Kareem Martin, DE, UNC
Will Clarke, DE, WVU
Daniel McCullers, DT/NG, Tenn
Brent Urban, DE, UVA
Marcus Smith, DE/OLB/ILB?, Louisville

Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
Derek Carr, QB, Fresno St. (if he falls into Rd. 2/3)
Jimmy Garropolo, QB, EIU
Tom Savage, QB, Pitt
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I think the surprise will be S Calvin Pryor and we'll stay put to get him most likely (he'll learn behind Reid and Bethea for a year). The next pick will be either WR Moncrief or Benjamin and the "speed guy" everyone is lusting over will be much later in the draft; a 4.2 or 4.3-guy with dynamic return abilities (i.e. a package WR for an occasional deep shot on the edge, fly sweeps, reverses, quick WR screens, etc. but he'll mostly be used as a return specialist).

Plus, it's a Baalke-like move that usually catches everyone off guard and jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.

LOL. How many 4.2 guys you know in this draft?
Exactly my point. Patton runs a 4.4 and VD runs a 4.3. Not many Ted Ginn's in the draft.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM ]
I think we stay at 30 and pick Deone Buchanon.