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How many draft picks actually make the 53 man roster?

Isn't THIS a fantastic question/post. Before we even consider how many draftees will make the 53, 46, etc. take a look at all these players who are expected to make huge jumps this year and compete for starting positions (by positions):

Cook, Chris - Will be competing for an outside CB position to back up Culliver/Brock/Wright
Morris, Darryl - Will be competing with a slot CB in this year's draft for a starting role
Wright, Eric - Already the #3 and will have a full off season to hit the ground running
Dial, Quinton - Currently the #3 and may be worked into the slot more. If not, he'll have to work hard against a blue-chip X or Z WR
Okoye, Lawrence - Expected to make a big jump this off season
Carradine, Tank - High expectations for this man and he's hungry
Jerod-Eddie, Tony - Played very well last year and may even push Dobbs off the roster
Dobbs, Demarcus - Tendered but may not even make the team with our depth!
Debniak, Alex - Was looking like the backup to Miller in the pre season until he got hurt and went on I.R. Watch this one closely! We needed a true backup FB badly last year.
Kilgore, Daniel (2nd year/1st-year starter) - Already slated to be out starting C and compete with Looney.
Looney, Joe - Played well at RG in spot-duty last year and is expected to make big strides. Iupati, look out.
Fleming, Darius (ILB?) - May be looked to move inside but came out of college as a pass rush specialist. And we haven't given up on him yet.
Lemonier, Corey - Already a great start last year and will be expected to step up even more this year
Moody, Nick - The FO liked this kid and with Bowman out, he'll be leaned on heavily to step up this off season
Skuta, Dan - Is already our #3 OLB and very good ST and will only get better
Wilhoite, Michael - Played well for Willis and now, we expect him to play great for Bowman
Williams, Ian - Welcome back kid. Now you get to face a starting competitoion with Dorsey and split time with him
Seymour, Ryan - Hearing good things about this guy
Schmidt, Colton (Andy had a poor year last year by his standards) - Will push Andy this year again
Gabbert, Blaine - Will be expected to becoome a viable backup this year
Hampton, Jewel - Love this guy; could surprise everyone while Lattimore gets his playing-game back
Hunter, Kendall - Underused, as always
James, LaMichael - Underused, as always
Lattimore, Marcus - We all have big hopes for Marcus!
Spillman, C.J. - An excellent ST but also may fit the "FS" role well which is important in today's game (vs. the SS role)
Bykowski, Carter - Meh; dude looked horrible last off season and I doubt he'd beat out Marquardt and Martin and Snyder
Marquardt, Luke - Already heard great thisngs about his progress last year
Carrier, Derek - Same here; watch out Celek! We could have our next Delanie Walker
Celek, Garrett - Is gong to have a heck of a time
McDonald, Vance - Coaches already said they plan to incorporate him more into the passing game!
Baldwin, Jon - Is expected to make big strides like Wright with a full off season and some experience in our systems. This is his last shot but will have huge competition thanks to the draft.
Patton, Quinton - Man, is this guy hungry or what?

Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/177689-reason-and-emotion/page7/#8Ol9C9jMZKYpmcwX.99

So, in just about every position, we're 2 and 3-deep already with proven talent and expected growth in year 2. I don't even know who in this year's draft class is going to crack the 53, let alone the 46 let alone who will get some real playing time. This draft will most likely focus on "quality" and will be developed for 2015 and 2016 starting roles.
I think we will convert some of our current picks into future draft picks so that we have a bunch of picks in next years draft as well. It would be great if we could pick up another first or second round pick in the 2015 draft.

Remember, without all of the wheeling and dealing we would be picking 30th in every round and w wouldn't have been able to select Reid last year. The extra picks have been very important to us.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Isn't THIS a fantastic question/post. Before we even consider how many draftees will make the 53, 46, etc. take a look at all these players who are expected to make huge jumps this year and compete for starting positions (by positions):

Cook, Chris - Will be competing for an outside CB position to back up Culliver/Brock/Wright
Morris, Darryl - Will be competing with a slot CB in this year's draft for a starting role
Wright, Eric - Already the #3 and will have a full off season to hit the ground running
Dial, Quinton - Currently the #3 and may be worked into the slot more. If not, he'll have to work hard against a blue-chip X or Z WR
Okoye, Lawrence - Expected to make a big jump this off season
Carradine, Tank - High expectations for this man and he's hungry
Jerod-Eddie, Tony - Played very well last year and may even push Dobbs off the roster
Dobbs, Demarcus - Tendered but may not even make the team with our depth!
Debniak, Alex - Was looking like the backup to Miller in the pre season until he got hurt and went on I.R. Watch this one closely! We needed a true backup FB badly last year.
Kilgore, Daniel (2nd year/1st-year starter) - Already slated to be out starting C and compete with Looney.
Looney, Joe - Played well at RG in spot-duty last year and is expected to make big strides. Iupati, look out.
Fleming, Darius (ILB?) - May be looked to move inside but came out of college as a pass rush specialist. And we haven't given up on him yet.
Lemonier, Corey - Already a great start last year and will be expected to step up even more this year
Moody, Nick - The FO liked this kid and with Bowman out, he'll be leaned on heavily to step up this off season
Skuta, Dan - Is already our #3 OLB and very good ST and will only get better
Wilhoite, Michael - Played well for Willis and now, we expect him to play great for Bowman
Williams, Ian - Welcome back kid. Now you get to face a starting competitoion with Dorsey and split time with him
Seymour, Ryan - Hearing good things about this guy
Schmidt, Colton (Andy had a poor year last year by his standards) - Will push Andy this year again
Gabbert, Blaine - Will be expected to becoome a viable backup this year
Hampton, Jewel - Love this guy; could surprise everyone while Lattimore gets his playing-game back
Hunter, Kendall - Underused, as always
James, LaMichael - Underused, as always
Lattimore, Marcus - We all have big hopes for Marcus!
Spillman, C.J. - An excellent ST but also may fit the "FS" role well which is important in today's game (vs. the SS role)
Bykowski, Carter - Meh; dude looked horrible last off season and I doubt he'd beat out Marquardt and Martin and Snyder
Marquardt, Luke - Already heard great thisngs about his progress last year
Carrier, Derek - Same here; watch out Celek! We could have our next Delanie Walker
Celek, Garrett - Is gong to have a heck of a time
McDonald, Vance - Coaches already said they plan to incorporate him more into the passing game!
Baldwin, Jon - Is expected to make big strides like Wright with a full off season and some experience in our systems. This is his last shot but will have huge competition thanks to the draft.
Patton, Quinton - Man, is this guy hungry or what?

Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/177689-reason-and-emotion/page7/#8Ol9C9jMZKYpmcwX.99

So, in just about every position, we're 2 and 3-deep already with proven talent and expected growth in year 2. I don't even know who in this year's draft class is going to crack the 53, let alone the 46 let alone who will get some real playing time. This draft will most likely focus on "quality" and will be developed for 2015 and 2016 starting roles.

I like that move, convert the 340 pound D-linemen to WR and put him out there in the slot!
Screw it, I say lets do it!
I wonder what the average is around the league
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
I like that move, convert the 340 pound D-linemen to WR and put him out there in the slot!
Screw it, I say lets do it!

He certainly won't get out physicaled by Sherman!
Lets see, locks are below(36 total)

Kap, Gabbert
Gore, Hunter, Lattimore
Miller
Boldin, Crabs, Patton
Vernon, Vance
Kilgore, Iupati, Boone, Staley, Davis
J.Smith, McDonald, Tank
Dorsey, Ian
Aldon, Brooks, Willis, Bowman, Skuta, Lemonier, Wilhoite
Cully, Brock
Reid, Bethea, Spillman
Dawson, Lee, McDermott

Players who should make the roster(6)

James, Martin, Ventrone, Looney, Wright, TJE

A total of 42 players who look good for the 2014 roster so far.

Snyder, Morris, Dial, Moody all have a good shot.

Dahl will be tested by a rookie. I would like to us draft a Guard to groom at LG.
Most of the draft picks can make the roster. Especially in a deep draft like this.
If we draft well, there are plenty of spots that talented rookies could take.

Slots:
2 - 3 CB
2 - 3 WR
2 S
2 DL
2 MLB
1 OLB
1 C
1 G
1 QB

IF we hit on all our picks, like we did last year, we could find room for them. For example, Cooper and BJ Daniels should still be on this team.
Turnover is the common theme of the NFL.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Mar 22, 2014 at 4:52 PM ]
  • RKab
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A lot of the names on that list will not be 49ers this coming year. Almost anyone in the top 100 of this year's draft will be kept over the vast majority of that list.

If all of those players make big strides, considering a lot of them are UDFAs and/or busts then this team should go undefeated. Forever.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Isn't THIS a fantastic question/post. Before we even consider how many draftees will make the 53, 46, etc. take a look at all these players who are expected to make huge jumps this year and compete for starting positions (by positions):

Comparing NCommands list with the roster on 49ers.com, this is what I get:

QB: 2

Kap
Gabbert

RB: 5
Gore
Hunter
Lattimore
LMJ (trade?)
Hampton

FB:1
Miller

WR:3
Crabtree
Boldin
Patton

TE:2
VD
Vance

OT:3
Staley
Davis
Martin

OG:4
Iupati
Boone
Looney
Snyder (?)

C: 1
Kilgore

DE: 5
Justin Smith
Mcdonald
Carradine
TJE
Dobbs


NT: 3
Dorsey
Ian
Dial

OLB:4
Aldon
Brooks
Lemonier
Skuta

ILB: 3
Willis
Wilhoite
Moody

CB: 6
Brock
Cox
Morris, Darryl - Will be competing with a slot CB in this year's draft for a starting role
Wright, Eric - Already the #3 and will have a full off season to hit the ground running
Culliver (?)
Cook, Chris (?)- Will be competing for an outside CB position to back up Culliver/Brock/Wright

S: 3
Reid
Bethea
Spillman

K/ST: 4
Dawson
McDermot
Lee
Osgood

Total: 49



Okoye
Dahl
Ventrone
Bethel-Thompson
Netter, Al
Purcell
Debniak, Alex - Was looking like the backup to Miller in the pre season until he got hurt and went on I.R. Watch this one closely! We needed a true backup FB badly last year.
Fleming, Darius (ILB?) - May be looked to move inside but came out of college as a pass rush specialist. And we haven't given up on him yet.
Seymour, Ryan - Hearing good things about this guy
Schmidt, Colton (Andy had a poor year last year by his standards) - Will push Andy this year again
Bykowski, Carter - Meh; dude looked horrible last off season and I doubt he'd beat out Marquardt and Martin and Snyder
Marquardt, Luke - Already heard great thisngs about his progress last year
Carrier, Derek - Same here; watch out Celek! We could have our next Delanie Walker
Celek, Garrett - Is going to have a heck of a time
Baldwin, Jon - Is expected to make big strides like Wright with a full off season and some experience in our systems. This is his last shot but will have huge competition thanks to the
Total: 15

PUP/IR
Bowman

That is 65 players, and the add 12 picks. Niners must trade up multiple times or rookies will have to beat out players on the roster.
I wonder if the Niners can include some of their fringe players in trades to move up in the draft?

Something like

#30
#94
Insert fringe player (#56-60 on the 9ers roster would likely make the active roster on several teams)
With their 3 7th rounders this year, I'd like to see the 49ers Draft College Starters who started College Games. Enough Projects.
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
With their 3 7th rounders this year, I'd like to see the 49ers Draft College Starters who started College Games. Enough Projects.

I just dont think they are going to have room. I think they have three option's:

1) injured players
2) include as filler in a larger trade
3) trade for future 6th (7th rounfers are a good way to nab players that might be UDFA)
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Isn't THIS a fantastic question/post. Before we even consider how many draftees will make the 53, 46, etc. take a look at all these players who are expected to make huge jumps this year and compete for starting positions (by positions):

[So, in just about every position, we're 2 and 3-deep already with proven talent and expected growth in year 2. I don't even know who in this year's draft class is going to crack the 53, let alone the 46 let alone who will get some real playing time. This draft will most likely focus on "quality" and will be developed for 2015 and 2016 starting roles.

It first glance, I would say that you must be wearing your rose-tinted glasses today.

Expected by who? The 49er coaches do not give us all that information about what they are expecting in player development. I would think hoped for makes more sense than expected.

In my estimation, we are clearly not two or three deep at wide receiver, safety, or defensive end. Although, the emergence of TJE at DE is certainly encouraging.

But, maybe the arrest of Culliver has just darkened by vision.
I'm seeing a range in the number of contracted players expected to make next years roster, but it feels to me that only 4-8 players in this years draft will make the roster (barring any additional acquisitions before the draft/ after the draft).

In a "perfect draft" every one of the selections would be a keeper and not a "red-shirt" selection.

Seems to me like there should be much trading of draft picks in order to target the Players the Front Office wants this year while trading a couple to get more picks next year and continue this philosophy of entering the draft with extra picks to allow for some movement.
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
The 49ers used our 7th rounds picks poorly last year. We should only draft players who if they play in preseason as well as expected have a roster spot available to them. A bust is a bust in any round and can happen with any pick. There is also always a chance a UDFA surprises and takes the spot but that can happen with any pick as well and you still end up with a good player.

I hope we use our late picks wiser this year. Draft players we still have a spot open for or pup list guys like Spencer Long or Trey Millard or Aaron Colvin or trade the picks for 2015 picks a round earlier.

Roster spots: 2 WR, 2 CB, 1 S, 1 C/G, 1 ILB, 1 PR/KR

There is also potential for:
1 top quality DL, we have plenty of depth
1 potential 3rd TE upgrade or FB/HB type
1 top quality OLB ,depth now and potential successor to Ahmad Brooks in 2-4 years


I agree. What is the point of having 7th round picks if they have no chance to make the roster no matter how well they play?

I am not sure about this.

I have a hard time considering a 6th or 7th round pick that does not make the team a bust.
[ Edited by buck on Mar 30, 2014 at 9:34 PM ]