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Garlicboy's Last Mock- 2 possibilities w/depth chart listed below

Different Approach: A trade up. And an attempt to acquire few healthy drafted players and a focus on UDFA's. Should be an extremely talented pool of UDFA's. 49ers are a deep team, and need star players and to continue the cycle put in place by Trent Baalke.

Mock Draft with 2 different paths (below is a depth chart). Trade up in the 1st, #30 and #74 for #16

1st: CB: Justin Gilbert or WR: Mike Evans/Marquise Lee
2a: WR: Donte Moncreif or CB: Pierre Desier
2b: *trade down into 3rd round for a 2015 4th rounder
3a: WR: Paul Richards or WR Martavis Bryant
3b: *trade down into 4th round for 2015 4th rounder--> 4a
3c: Injured- DE Dominque Easley
4a: *trade down into 4th round for 2015 5th rounder--> 4a
4a: Injured- QB Aaron Murray
4b: LB: Lamin Barrow
5a: Injured- CB: Aaron Colvin
7a: Injured- OG: Spencer Long
7b: Injured- FB: Trey Millard
7c: *trade for 2015 6th rounder

*obtained obtained 2 extra 4th's, a 5th, and a 6th in 2015 draft by trading down a bit.
** 4 drafted players but I consider RB: Lattimore, DE Carridine, DE Okoye, NT Dial and Marquardt 2014 rookies. Actually 2013 didn't count as a contracted year.
*** 5 injured players drafted to Redshirt Squad
UDFA: CB: Bene Benwikere SJSU, CB: Keon Lyn S: Tre Boston WR: John Brown WR: Quincy Enunwa, etc. etc.
Injured UDFA: S: Nickoe Whitley, S: Vinnie Sunseri DE: Chris Whaley





QB: Colin Kaepernick, Blaine Gabbbert, McLeod Bethel-Thompson
RB: Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Marcus Lattimore, Jewel Hampton
FB: Bruce Miller, Alex Debniak, Will Tukuafu
WR: Michael Crabtree, Quinton Patton, Brandon Carswell, DeMarco Sampson
WR: Anquan Boldin, Jon Baldwin, Chuck Jacobs, David Reed, Devon Wylie
TE: Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek, Derek Carrier
LT: Joe Staley, Luke Marquardt
LG: Mike Iupati, Adam Snyder, Ryan Seymour
C: Daniel Kilgore
RG: Alex Boone, Joe Looney, Al Netter
RT: Anthony Davis, Jonathaon Martin Carter Bykowski

DEFENSE
LDE: Ray McDonald, Tony Jerod-Eddie, Lawrence Okoye
NT: Glenn Dorsey, Ian Williams, Quinton Dial, Mike Purcell
RDE: Justin Smith, Tank Carradine, Christian Tupou
ILB: Micahel Wilhoite, Nick Moody, (NaVorro Bowman)
ILB: Patrick Willis, Michael Wilhoite, Darius Fleming
OLB: Ahmad Brooks, Corey Lemonier
OLB: Aldon Smith, Dan Skuta
CB: Tramaine Brock, Darryl Morris
CB: Eric Wright,
CB: Chris Culliver, Chris Cook, Dax Swanson
FS: Eric Reid, Bubba Ventrone
SS: Antoine Bethea, Craig Dahl, C.J. Spillman, D.J. Campbell

SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Dawson
P: Andy Lee
LOS: Kevin McDermott
[ Edited by Garlicboy on Mar 16, 2014 at 1:34 PM ]


You stoned bruh?
Originally posted by NikeSBHead:


You stoned bruh?

No. Just hit enter before I was ready.I like to see the depth chart for comparison. To see how a draft pick compares to a player that is already on the roster.

Right now, this is a DEEP, 49ers roster. We have a lot of guys on the bench who were former starters and could start on the Raiders right now: G Adam Snyder, CB Eric Wright, OT Jonathon Martin, S Craig Dahl, NT Ian Willams/Glenn Dorsey, OLB Dan Skuta and a some nice young guys who should be better after a year of experience: WR Quinton Patton, TE Vance McDonald, OLB Corey Lemonier, and we have talented players, some high picks who were injured last year: RB Lattimore, DE Tank Carridine, NT/DE Quinton Dial, DE Lawrence Okoye and OT Luke Marquardt.
[ Edited by Garlicboy on Mar 16, 2014 at 1:31 PM ]
I really dont think we'll be able to pull off a trade #30+ a 3rd pick to move up late teens like we did last yr...I think everybody knows tha cowboys got screwed on tha draft pick value chart i looked at cowboys gave up 95 points(#31+77=805,#18=900)...
Nice mock
Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
I really dont think we'll be able to pull off a trade #30+ a 3rd pick to move up late teens like we did last yr...I think everybody knows tha cowboys got screwed on tha draft pick value chart i looked at cowboys gave up 95 points(#31+77=805,#18=900)...

I actually think it's more plausible this year, with the crazy amount of depth in this year's draft, a team could trade down to #30, still get a mid-1st type of talent, and gain an extra 3rd, which is still going to be a high quality player this year. There a bunch of teams that need more quality players than they have high draft picks to get.
I like a lot of those choices. But we'd better hire another athletic trainer to handle all of the guys coming off injury.
I can see the 49ers trading down and gaining future picks. But your mock.

Wow, Really?

You have us drafting 1 ILB plus 2 WR's and a CB
Or 1 ILB plus 2 CB's and a WR

That's 4 players with all our picks in a very deep draft for this year plus 5 guys for the pup list,

I'll pass. I think we can do better.
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
I can see the 49ers trading down and gaining future picks. But your mock.

Wow, Really?

You have us drafting 1 ILB plus 2 WR's and a CB
Or 1 ILB plus 2 CB's and a WR

That's 4 players with all our picks in a very deep draft for this year plus 5 guys for the pup list,

I'll pass. I think we can do better.

I get the premise, but it seems like a bit of overkill to me. Personally, I think Easley is a bad fit for us (short-armed penetrator), so I'd go ahead and use that pick on Loston, if he's there, and get us some safety depth. I'd actually feel okay with 2 WR's, 1 CB, 1 S, an ILB, and a bunch of talented guys to redshirt. The injury bumps them down, so it's like we get a bunch of mid-round talent (in a very talented draft, as you mentioned) with late round picks. We just need to remember not to elevate them to the active roster this time (Carradine and Dial ), so the season doesn't count against their contracts. We don't have many roster openings, so we address our needs and stockpile talent that we can get into NFL film rooms and NFL shape, and then give them a full offseason before their official rookie year. I think it'd be a hell of a draft.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
I can see the 49ers trading down and gaining future picks. But your mock.

Wow, Really?

You have us drafting 1 ILB plus 2 WR's and a CB
Or 1 ILB plus 2 CB's and a WR

That's 4 players with all our picks in a very deep draft for this year plus 5 guys for the pup list,

I'll pass. I think we can do better.

I get the premise, but it seems like a bit of overkill to me. Personally, I think Easley is a bad fit for us (short-armed penetrator), so I'd go ahead and use that pick on Loston, if he's there, and get us some safety depth. I'd actually feel okay with 2 WR's, 1 CB, 1 S, an ILB, and a bunch of talented guys to redshirt. The injury bumps them down, so it's like we get a bunch of mid-round talent (in a very talented draft, as you mentioned) with late round picks. We just need to remember not to elevate them to the active roster this time (Carradine and Dial ), so the season doesn't count against their contracts. We don't have many roster openings, so we address our needs and stockpile talent that we can get into NFL film rooms and NFL shape, and then give them a full offseason before their official rookie year. I think it'd be a hell of a draft.

I would like to see 2 CB's, 2 WR's, Safety, Center, ILB and possibly a return specialist

That gives us 3-4 more picks to use on pup list plus any we can sign as UDFA's. That's plenty.

We have more openings than people think. We can add 2 wr's. We only have 2 CB's I trust and can add 2 more. I don't trust any of our back up safties. They are more special teams guys. We don't have a quality PR. We might need to add an ILB. I don't know what the plan is at back up Center. Snyder or Looney?

There are also positions like FB/HB, an upgrade at DL or possibly even a talented young OLB to understudy behind Brooks and eventually take over his position.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I get the premise, but it seems like a bit of overkill to me. Personally, I think Easley is a bad fit for us (short-armed penetrator), so I'd go ahead and use that pick on Loston, if he's there, and get us some safety depth. I'd actually feel okay with 2 WR's, 1 CB, 1 S, an ILB, and a bunch of talented guys to redshirt. The injury bumps them down, so it's like we get a bunch of mid-round talent (in a very talented draft, as you mentioned) with late round picks. We just need to remember not to elevate them to the active roster this time (Carradine and Dial ), so the season doesn't count against their contracts. We don't have many roster openings, so we address our needs and stockpile talent that we can get into NFL film rooms and NFL shape, and then give them a full offseason before their official rookie year. I think it'd be a hell of a draft.

Actually, I read somewhere that if a player doesn't suit up, the year does not count. I know for Lattimore the year didn't count contractually. Basically it truly was a redshirt year. I think it may be the same for Carrdine. However, Dial did suit up, thus a year counted. However I think it's actually better as there will be some overlap contract wise.

I see your concerns w/Easley, but I figure with his talent, he's worth a shot in the 3rd round.

My draft is a bit overkill with the a bunch of injured players drafted, however there are a bunch of young talented safeties who will not get drafted and Nickoe Whitley and Vinnie Sunseri are two safeties we can stash on the NFI list. Honestly, I don't see the difference between drafting that mid to late round safety and Craig Dahl. In fact with starting experience, experience in the scheme, experience in the NFC West, I don't see many Safeties doing better than Craig Dahl, and that is if Dahl is even called upon to play. We have Bethea and Eric Reid. That being said, we can draft a Safety and say goodbye to Ventrone or Dahl. However I value special teams. We got killed in Special teams against the Seahawks.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who values getting physically and mentally ready, staying in the weight room, doing the proper drills, film study and learning/understanding the game the 49ers play. I would have to imagine the Redshirt team has to come in there with a lot of confidence.

It worked for Colin Kaepernick (not injured, but not thrown into the fire before he's ready) and Joe Looney.

Can't wait to see how this years Redshirt team performs.
[ Edited by Garlicboy on Mar 16, 2014 at 9:05 PM ]
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
I would like to see 2 CB's, 2 WR's, Safety, Center, ILB and possibly a return specialist

That gives us 3-4 more picks to use on pup list plus any we can sign as UDFA's. That's plenty.

We have more openings than people think. We can add 2 wr's. We only have 2 CB's I trust and can add 2 more. I don't trust any of our back up safties. They are more special teams guys. We don't have a quality PR. We might need to add an ILB. I don't know what the plan is at back up Center. Snyder or Looney?

Snyder has been back-up Center and Looney has taken reps at Center as well. They can draft another G/T. However, it is pretty strong. Looney played well last year at Guard. Snyder is a solid back-up. Jonathon Martin is a former Starting Tackle who has something to prove. Kilgore is a question mark. Other than that, you only have so many game day rosters spots.

Regarding the roster spots, count them out. I for one would rather have a solid veteran/ST teams guy on the roster than a developmental player at this point. One can argue we lost the NFC championship game to the Seahawks because of special teams.

FB/HB- How long did it take Delanie Walker to develop and can rookie draft pick beat out Garret Celek or Practice Squad Derek Carrier?
WR: Crab, Q, Patton, Rookie, Rookie
S: Bethea, Reid, Dahl, Spillman, Ventrone. Can a rookie be better on special teams than Spillman and Ventrone and beat out Dahl?
** Reid is the exception to rookies, not many rookies come in and play like Pro Bowlers.

There are also positions like FB/HB, an upgrade at DL or possibly even a talented young OLB to understudy behind Brooks and eventually take over his position.

FB/HB the best one in the draft is Trey Millard. 49ers have Derek Carrier on the Practice Squad that Kaepernick has even mentioned. Carrier has spent a year on the team and knows the playbook, so he should be miles ahead of any rookie we bring in. Like Lawrence Okoey, Carrier is somewhat of a physical specimen however he has the college production to back up the athleticism.

OLB: We have arguably the strongest set of OLB's in the league: Brooks, Smith, back-ups Skuta and Lemonieer
DL: We have the same D line from last year, except add a healthy Ian Williams who was a starter and 2nd rounder Tank Carridine, also Lawrence Okoye.
[ Edited by Garlicboy on Mar 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM ]
Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
I really dont think we'll be able to pull off a trade #30+ a 3rd pick to move up late teens like we did last yr...I think everybody knows tha cowboys got screwed on tha draft pick value chart i looked at cowboys gave up 95 points(#31+77=805,#18=900)...

Cowboys didn't get screwed. They got 2 solid starters out of the deal.

In a deeper draft, this is a better deal for the Cowboys than last year.
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
I can see the 49ers trading down and gaining future picks. But your mock.

Wow, Really?

You have us drafting 1 ILB plus 2 WR's and a CB
Or 1 ILB plus 2 CB's and a WR

That's 4 players with all our picks in a very deep draft for this year plus 5 guys for the pup list,

I'll pass. I think we can do better.

I guess you fail to see that the PUP list can be used as extra roster spots, however it must be filled with players recovering from injury.
With the depth on this team, your basically cutting talent and/or wasting draft picks. Examples:

7th: BJ Daniels a Seahawk
7th: Marcus Cooper a Chief

Practice Squad: S Michael Thomas, was AFC player of the week his first week with the Dolphins

Didn't even clear waivers:
TE/HB: Marquies Gray a Jaguar
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
Actually, I read somewhere that if a player doesn't suit up, the year does not count. I know for Lattimore the year didn't count contractually. Basically it truly was a redshirt year. I think it may be the same for Carrdine. However, Dial did suit up, thus a year counted. However I think it's actually better as there will be some overlap contract wise.

I see your concerns w/Easley, but I figure with his talent, he's worth a shot in the 3rd round.

My draft is a bit overkill with the a bunch of injured players drafted, however there are a bunch of young talented safeties who will not get drafted and Nickoe Whitley and Vinnie Sunseri are two safeties we can stash on the NFI list. Honestly, I don't see the difference between drafting that mid to late round safety and Craig Dahl. In fact with starting experience, experience in the scheme, experience in the NFC West, I don't see many Safeties doing better than Craig Dahl, and that is if Dahl is even called upon to play. We have Bethea and Eric Reid. That being said, we can draft a Safety and say goodbye to Ventrone or Dahl. However I value special teams. We got killed in Special teams against the Seahawks.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who values getting physically and mentally ready, staying in the weight room, doing the proper drills, film study and learning/understanding the game the 49ers play. I would have to imagine the Redshirt team has to come in there with a lot of confidence.

It worked for Colin Kaepernick (not injured, but not thrown into the fire before he's ready) and Joe Looney.

Can't wait to see how this years Redshirt team performs.

Maiocco said time on the 53 counts, so Carradine's season counted, Lattimore's did not.