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Physical Prospect Comparisons

Pretty cool little database at Mockdrafttable that makes for some interesting comparisons based on a player's measurables.




Donte Moncrief-WR-Ole Miss. Compares to:


Cordarrelle Patterson (2013): 3.362863955972 (83.1%)

Charles Johnson (2013): 4.2357995640794 (80.4%)

Andre Johnson (2003): 4.3712191106873 (80%)

Cedric James (2001): 5.4731638055182 (77.4%)



DeAndre Coleman-DT-Cal Jared Odrick (2010): 1.9272619795499 (90.1%) Ty Warren (2003): 2.0380290524253 (89.3%) Ryan Sims (2002): 2.3564627925027 (87.5%) Devon Still (2012): 2.4572354841794 (86.9%) Corey Williams (2004): 2.626179515783 (86.1%) Randy Starks (2004): 2.7795805165294 (85.4%) You can look up various prospects and see who they most closely compare to in terms of their build and measurable stats. It also gives you a statistic on how they stack up against all others of the same position in terms of strength, speed....etc.
http://mockdraftable.com/players/2014/
For moncreif I see robert Meachem personally
Jordan Matthews


Similar Players (Lower score = more similar)
Cody Latimer (2014): 3.8064904564068 (81.6%)
Greg Childs (2012): 3.9058112886839 (81.3%)
Demaryius Thomas (2010): 4.1253805628632 (80.7%)
Marvin Jones (2012): 5.0548198954124 (78.3%)
Quincy Enunwa (2014): 5.1344048291534 (78.2%)
Rodney Smith (2013): 5.1476460604049 (78.1%)
Larry Fitzgerald (2004): 5.5440413956747 (77.3%)
Braylon Edwards (2005): 5.6050928606543 (77.2%)
Josh Gordon (2012): 5.7647148048819 (76.9%)
Riley Cooper (2010): 5.9638373045118 (76.5%)
Originally posted by solidg2000:
For moncreif I see robert Meachem personally

I don't see that, Meachem was more along the lines of a guy like Bryant, a pure vertical threat, long strider. I think Moncrief has shown better ability to get open frequently, better hands than Meachem did in college too.
Shaq Evans

Similar Players (Lower score = more similar)
Quincy Morgan (2001): 1.3472749616852 (94.8%)
Justin Blackmon (2012): 1.3631765982563 (94.7%)
Jermaine Kearse (2012): 1.6369799093992 (92.2%)
Rod Gardner (2001): 1.6724726140253 (91.9%)
Justin Jenkins (2004): 1.8218721614135 (90.8%)
Chris Hannon (2006): 1.9781922926751 (89.7%)
Adrian Madise (2003): 2.018421681059 (89.5%)
Steve Johnson (2008): 2.1307878947597 (88.8%)
Jake Schifino (2002): 2.133653419718 (88.7%)
J.R. Russell (2005): 2.1872741474541 (88.4%)
These rankings are cautionary too, just because two guys are very similar, doesn't mean the performance will be the same obviously.



Brian Quick-WR Compares to:

Tori Gurley (2011): 0.78956792670867 (99%)

Josh Gordon (2012): 2.7091891802121 (85.7%)

Mike Evans (2014): 3.0361705723176 (84.3%)

Marcus Lucas (2014): 3.5808484873295 (82.3%)

Rodney Smith (2013): 3.9273680078103 (81.2%)

Tommy Streeter (2012): 3.9594257763242 (81.2%)

Michael Floyd (2012): 4.1348876775768 (80.6%)

Rueben Randle (2012): 4.5254284035499 (79.6%)





In this case if Quick performed like Gordon, Floyd or Randle, the Rams would have had a huge steal instead of a major disappointment.
Jon Baldwin compares to Mark Harrison, Larry Fitzgerald and Marques Colston.




With the struggles that Baldwin has had, I think its easy to forget what an absolute athletic freak he is.




Height: 6' 4" Weight: 228 Arm Length: 33.53" Hand Size: 10⅛" 10 Yard Dash: 1.58 20 Yard Dash: 2.57 40 Yard Dash: 4.49 Bench Press: 20 Vertical Jump: 42" Broad Jump: 129" 3 Cone Drill: 7.07 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.34 60 Yard Shuttle: 11.40
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
These rankings are cautionary too, just because two guys are very similar, doesn't mean the performance will be the same obviously.



Brian Quick-WR Compares to:

Tori Gurley (2011): 0.78956792670867 (99%)

Josh Gordon (2012): 2.7091891802121 (85.7%)

Mike Evans (2014): 3.0361705723176 (84.3%)

Marcus Lucas (2014): 3.5808484873295 (82.3%)

Rodney Smith (2013): 3.9273680078103 (81.2%)

Tommy Streeter (2012): 3.9594257763242 (81.2%)

Michael Floyd (2012): 4.1348876775768 (80.6%)

Rueben Randle (2012): 4.5254284035499 (79.6%)





In this case if Quick performed like Gordon, Floyd or Randle, the Rams would have had a huge steal instead of a major disappointment.

I wouldn't call him a disappointment just yet. He came from a d2 school and everyone knew he would need time to develop. Now if he doesn't do s**t this year (year 3) then yes he's a disappointment and bust
Robert Meachem
WR, Tennessee
2007 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 214
10 Yard Dash: 1.51
20 Yard Dash: 2.49
40 Yard Dash: 4.39
Vertical Jump: 37 1/2
Broad Jump: 121"
3 Cone Drill: 6.97
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.31

Donte Moncrief
WR, Ole Miss
2014 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 221
Arm Length: 32 3/8
Hand Size: 9 1/8
10 Yard Dash: 1.50
40 Yard Dash: 4.40
Bench Press: 13
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 132"
3 Cone Drill: 7.02
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.30
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Robert Meachem
WR, Tennessee
2007 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 214
10 Yard Dash: 1.51
20 Yard Dash: 2.49
40 Yard Dash: 4.39
Vertical Jump: 37 1/2
Broad Jump: 121"
3 Cone Drill: 6.97
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.31

Donte Moncrief
WR, Ole Miss
2014 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 221
Arm Length: 32 3/8
Hand Size: 9 1/8
10 Yard Dash: 1.50
40 Yard Dash: 4.40
Bench Press: 13
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 132"
3 Cone Drill: 7.02
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.30


I meant in terms of player performance, but if you pull up Meachem on the site:


Jason Hill (2007): 2.675966510032 (85.9%)

Larry Parker (1999): 3.6276274887987 (82.2%)

David Terrell (2001): 3.9713696376926 (81.1%)

Mike Walker (2007): 4.2304402559636 (80.4%)

Todd Watkins (2006): 4.3862097391036 (80%)

Rod Gardner (2001): 4.7053796074765 (79.2%)
Absolutely incredible looking at Watt's web. Kaep's is impressive too.
Quinton Patton vs. Marqise Lee

Patton
Height: 6000
Weight: 204
40 Yrd Dash: 4.48
20 Yrd Dash: 2.50
10 Yrd Dash: 1.58
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 08
Vertical Jump: 33
Broad Jump: 09'10"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.01
3-Cone Drill: 6.91

Lee
Height: 5116
Weight: 192
40 Yrd Dash: 4.52
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:
225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump: 38
Broad Jump: 10'06"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.01
3-Cone Drill:

The more I look at Lee, the more I wonder what he brings to the equation that's better than Patton?
[ Edited by Butter on Mar 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM ]
We're opposed with the Physicals:

But the Brain and Heart have to be factored in their as well.
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
We're opposed with the Physicals:

But the Brain and Heart have to be factored in their as well.

assuming you meant obsessed, physical is just easier to quantify, so it's easier to discuss. Intelligence and heart are important, for sure, but the metric for intelligence (wonderlic) doesn't predict football intelligence, and heart has no metric. Numbers are obviously easier to compare.
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Robert Meachem
WR, Tennessee
2007 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 214
10 Yard Dash: 1.51
20 Yard Dash: 2.49
40 Yard Dash: 4.39
Vertical Jump: 37 1/2
Broad Jump: 121"
3 Cone Drill: 6.97
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.31

Donte Moncrief
WR, Ole Miss
2014 draft

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 221
Arm Length: 32 3/8
Hand Size: 9 1/8
10 Yard Dash: 1.50
40 Yard Dash: 4.40
Bench Press: 13
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 132"
3 Cone Drill: 7.02
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.30

MONCREIF is the better player period,I hope and pray that Baalke has the sense to pick this GUY,He is a HarBaalke type of GUY,He1s big,Physical with an F,Loooong Arms,Very Good route runner,and HE can and will take the TOP OFF of dehenses with His Speed ooh and He does go over the Middle, one thing that PUZZLEs the Hell of me,How is it that SOME PEOPLE would rather pick somebody else OTHER then Moncreif,REALLY REALLY