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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
If the 49ers see someone who could be the heir apparent to Willis in 4 years I could see spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on him to provide depth for 4 years and then maybe take over down the road but if they don't see someone of that kind of talent any pick would be later for depth.

Here's a crazy thought. Draft a speed demon/play-making machine like Telvin Smith in the late 2nd/early 3rd, and rotate him with Wilhoite to cover for Bowman. Wilhoite can start with an emphasis on stopping the run while Smith comes in on nickel packages as a LB/S hybrid (which is exactly what he is right now). In the long-run, a relatively light (218 lbs) Smith can stack on the weight and in 2-3 years, take over for Willis.

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Don't know him that well but if they see that potential in him it would be a good idea. Apparently we no longer need to draft a Center early so that free's up another pick. We have 7 in the 1st 4 rounds.
Wilhoite and Moody can pick up the slack ...or else throw in Brooks at ILB for a play here and there, and let Skuta or Lemonier get a few snaps in his spot at OLB to rush the passer ...just a few plays , not as a full time gig, but I'm sure we might draft an ILB with a mid round pick
[ Edited by NeeJ49er on Feb 28, 2014 at 9:27 AM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
If the 49ers see someone who could be the heir apparent to Willis in 4 years I could see spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on him to provide depth for 4 years and then maybe take over down the road but if they don't see someone of that kind of talent any pick would be later for depth.

Here's a crazy thought. Draft a speed demon/play-making machine like Telvin Smith in the late 2nd/early 3rd, and rotate him with Wilhoite to cover for Bowman. Wilhoite can start with an emphasis on stopping the run while Smith comes in on nickel packages as a LB/S hybrid (which is exactly what he is right now). In the long-run, a relatively light (218 lbs) Smith can stack on the weight and in 2-3 years, take over for Willis.

or

???

Being a FSU fan, I can't see Smith as a fit in a 34. He needs to be kept clean so he
can just fly to the ball. Not sure he could stack on the 20 lbs that he would need.
But remember Moody was a safety at FSU until his senior year. Maybe have him cut
some weight and have him replace Wilhoite in sub packages. The guy I like is Christian
Jones, also from FSU. Great size at 64 240 with 33 1/2 arms. Could play ILB or OLB for us imo
Just realized that Wilhoite was also a safety in college so maybe you are onto something
Originally posted by mtminer:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
If the 49ers see someone who could be the heir apparent to Willis in 4 years I could see spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on him to provide depth for 4 years and then maybe take over down the road but if they don't see someone of that kind of talent any pick would be later for depth.

Here's a crazy thought. Draft a speed demon/play-making machine like Telvin Smith in the late 2nd/early 3rd, and rotate him with Wilhoite to cover for Bowman. Wilhoite can start with an emphasis on stopping the run while Smith comes in on nickel packages as a LB/S hybrid (which is exactly what he is right now). In the long-run, a relatively light (218 lbs) Smith can stack on the weight and in 2-3 years, take over for Willis.

or

???

Being a FSU fan, I can't see Smith as a fit in a 34. He needs to be kept clean so he
can just fly to the ball. Not sure he could stack on the 20 lbs that he would need.
But remember Moody was a safety at FSU until his senior year. Maybe have him cut
some weight and have him replace Wilhoite in sub packages. The guy I like is Christian
Jones, also from FSU. Great size at 64 240 with 33 1/2 arms. Could play ILB or OLB for us imo

We're not a true 3-4 team to begin with (and run just as much sub-packages as we do base), and most 3-4 teams these days are asking their ILBs to play lighter in order to be more effective in coverage. If a guy like Smith could add 15 lbs or so in the next 2-3 years (which doesn't sound unreasonable) and get closer to 235, he would be fine in our defense.
Originally posted by mtminer:
Just realized that Wilhoite was also a safety in college so maybe you are onto something

Most of our ILBs are either close to 240 or like Moody, under 240. Lighter, quicker ILBs are all the rage right now in this pass happy league.
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Im pretty sure Wilhoite will be retained, and step in for Bowman

The forgotten one Fleming will be back from injury and compete with Moody for that last LB spot

I also like the two Pac12 guys Skov and Fortt, and Baroww from LSU in the draft
Call up Tikeo Spikes or see if you can talk Fletcher out of retirement to be on a contender. All we need is a solid stop gap until Bowman is ready and healthy. If not, Wilhoite can hold down Bowman's sit until he returns better than any rookie would.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The most important thing you lose with Bowman is his coverage ability, i cant see the 49ers drafting someone who cant cover well.

This.
I think with Bowman out for at least half the season this is a thread that should get far more attention.
At this point i have cut it down to 5 Players who i think could develop into future startes/very good backups down the line and help us immediately until Bowman is back.

Telvin Smith FSU 6´3" 218 32 1/2 arm length http://draftbreakdown.com/players/telvin-smith/ Round 2-3

Christian Jones FSU 6´3" 240 33 1/2 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/christian-jones/ Round 3-4

Lamin Barrow LSU 6´1" 237 33 3/8 arm length http://draftbreakdown.com/players/lamin-barrow/ Round Round 4-5

Kevin Pierre-Louis Boston College 6´0" 232 32 1/4 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/kevin-pierre-louis/ Round 5-6

Avery Williamson Kentucky 6´1" 246 32 3/4 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/avery-williamson/ Round 5-6

There are other linebackers in this draft i like but i think none of them would give us an upgrade in coverage over Wilhoite or are as good as Wilhoite in coverage.
[ Edited by DeUh on Mar 18, 2014 at 1:54 PM ]
Originally posted by DeUh:
This.
I think with Bowman out for at least half the season this is a thread that should get far more attention.
At this point i have cut it down to 5 Players who i think could develop into future startes/very good backups down the line and help us immediately until Bowman is back.

Telvin Smith FSU 6´3" 218 32 1/2 arm length http://draftbreakdown.com/players/telvin-smith/ Round 2-3

Christian Jones FSU 6´3" 240 33 1/2 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/christian-jones/ Round 3-4

Lamin Barrow LSU 6´1" 237 33 3/8 arm length http://draftbreakdown.com/players/lamin-barrow/ Round Round 4-5

Kevin Pierre-Louis Boston College 6´0" 232 32 1/4 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/kevin-pierre-louis/ Round 5-6

Avery Williamson Kentucky 6´1" 246 32 3/4 http://draftbreakdown.com/players/avery-williamson/ Round 5-6

There are other linebackers in this draft i like but i think none of them would give us an upgrade in coverage over Wilhoite or are as good as Wilhoite in coverage.

It's all about Lamin Barrow. Love his natural instincts, he just seems to know where the football is going on every play and is very rarely out of place to make a play on the ball. If the 49ers draft a ILB, that's the dude I want. Avery Williamson and Andrew Jackson are the alternates pretty much.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
It's all about Lamin Barrow. Love his natural instincts, he just seems to know where the football is going on every play and is very rarely out of place to make a play on the ball. If the 49ers draft a ILB, that's the dude I want. Avery Williamson and Andrew Jackson are the alternates pretty much.


Yes Jackson is another one i like who i feel gets a little overlooked here, But I think Smith, Jones, Barrow, Louis and Williamson are better in coverage. Could be wrong
Originally posted by DeUh:
Yes Jackson is another one i like who i feel gets a little overlooked here, But I think Smith, Jones, Barrow, Louis and Williamson are better in coverage. Could be wrong

Xavius Boyd, Jackson's teammate, is a guy I could see us targeting. About the same size as Navorro coming out of Penn State, considered to small for OLB (6'2, 240). We could move him inside. He was the Sun Belt's Defensive Player of the year. Had 103 tackles (15.5 for loss) with 8.5 sacks.
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Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Yes Jackson is another one i like who i feel gets a little overlooked here, But I think Smith, Jones, Barrow, Louis and Williamson are better in coverage. Could be wrong

Xavius Boyd, Jackson's teammate, is a guy I could see us targeting. About the same size as Navorro coming out of Penn State, considered to small for OLB (6'2, 240). We could move him inside. He was the Sun Belt's Defensive Player of the year. Had 103 tackles (15.5 for loss) with 8.5 sacks.


You think Boyd is as good or better in coverage than Wilhoite ?