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Martavis Bryant.

I think this guy gets over looked. Yes he's a team mate of Walkins but let's be honest were not selling the future of this team to trade up that high for him..


I like this kid as a possible option without trading away a draft for one player. Has height, speed looks great he's a long strider. Fluid body control and soft hands. My knocks are he's raw, needs to add bulk say 20-30 pounds, for a guy his height seems a bit small at 200 pounds, but with that weight he might lose some speed.
I love this guy maybe in late round 1 or number 2 depending on his combine workouts but this kid can flat out fly!!!
I want this kid to be a 49er. On grass all three of Clemson's top receivers ran the 40 yard dash under 4.3. This kid has the length and athleticism to really take the top off.
Originally posted by northoakland510:
I want this kid to be a 49er. On grass all three of Clemson's top receivers ran the 40 yard dash under 4.3. This kid has the length and athleticism to really take the top off.

So does Jonathan Baldwin.......
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Rather than Bryant I'd rather take Moncrief for where both players are expected to be selected. Moncrief in the 3rd > Bryant in the 4th. Now if somehow Bryant falls into the end of the 5th, I'd say sure why not but that is just me.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
So does Jonathan Baldwin.......

This kid is a lot more fluid than Baldwin when in motion.
Originally posted by sfout:
Rather than Bryant I'd rather take Moncrief for where both players are expected to be selected. Moncrief in the 3rd > Bryant in the 4th. Now if somehow Bryant falls into the end of the 5th, I'd say sure why not but that is just me.

I don't watch a lot of college ball, I'll get on youtube and look at some film on Moncrief.
I would be happy as a pig in slop to grab Brandin Cooks in the 1st or Marquise Lee, a speedster WR/ return specialist, then get Wakins in the 3rd or 4th
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Originally posted by northoakland510:
Originally posted by sfout:
Rather than Bryant I'd rather take Moncrief for where both players are expected to be selected. Moncrief in the 3rd > Bryant in the 4th. Now if somehow Bryant falls into the end of the 5th, I'd say sure why not but that is just me.

I don't watch a lot of college ball, I'll get on youtube and look at some film on Moncrief.

Only reason I say so is because Moncrief has more experience. Bryant may have a high ceiling but I'm just hesitant on a big project of an outside WR.

Right now we need a guy who could step in from day 1 and spell Boldin or Crabs, really push Patton for the #3 spot in that regard -- Bryant won't be able to do that. I'd be happy with 1 day 2 selection like Moncrief or Matthews and a day 3 player like Bryant or Devin Street.
[ Edited by sfout on Feb 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM ]
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
I would be happy as a pig in slop to grab Brandin Cooks in the 1st or Marquise Lee, a speedster WR/ return specialist, then get Wakins in the 3rd or 4th

I think this guy might be faster than Lee,
A common misconception is that Lee is big and fast. The guy is barley 6 feet and runs somewhere in the 4.5 range.
But he is probably the most athletic WR in the draft...

I've never seen Bryant until now. DO WANT.
Originally posted by northoakland510:
This kid is a lot more fluid than Baldwin when in motion.

I don't see whatsoever. I see your typical long-strider, if anything, Baldwin was much more developed as a prospect coming out of college. This guy is a project, similar to Stephen Hill, yes, he's tall and he's fast, guess what, that's good enough to make you a track athlete, not a football player. He's limited as a route runner and his hands are questionable at best.

He also brings nothing as a run blocker, so beyond the weird "height and speed" fetish that people have, what about him as a "wide receiver" makes him unique as a prospect or even makes him a good fit for this offense?


He has a grand total of 61 receptions and 1350 yards as a receiver for his entire college career. In comparison, a guy like Marqise Lee has 248 receptions for over 3600 yards in his 3 years in college.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 18, 2014 at 1:29 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I don't see whatsoever. I see your typical long-strider, if anything, Baldwin was much more developed as a prospect coming out of college. This guy is a project, similar to Stephen Hill, yes, he's tall and he's fast, guess what, that's good enough to make you a track athlete, not a football player. He's limited as a route runner and his hands are questionable at best, so beyond the weird "height and speed" fetish that people have, what about him as a "wide receiver" makes him unique as a prospect?

I think the "height and speed" fetish came along when Calvin showed up.

Anyways, in my opinion, being big and fast gives a QB more of a window to throw too. Thats the draw.
Originally posted by Quest4six:
I think the "height and speed" fetish came along when Calvin showed up.

Anyways, in my opinion, being big and fast gives a QB more of a window to throw too. Thats the draw.


How'd that work out for Tommy Streeter and any number of big/fast prospects who flamed out in the NFL after having survived in college almost purely on their athleticism? You can be the most athletic guy at your college, you'll just be another guy in the NFL. I don't see anything about Bryant's abilities as a receiver that stand out and make me go "wow, he's going to be a great one." He's a very raw project that got by on his athleticism in college, will that be enough in the NFL? Highly doubtful.



Calvin Johnson is not a great receiver because he's "tall" or because he's "fast", he's a great receiver because he's highly skilled, his height and speed are a bonus, but he's got the necessary route running ability, hands and balance to be a playmaker wherever he goes. Being tall and fast might make you a good track athlete, it won't make you a good football player by itself.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 18, 2014 at 1:30 PM ]
Originally posted by Quest4six:
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
I would be happy as a pig in slop to grab Brandin Cooks in the 1st or Marquise Lee, a speedster WR/ return specialist, then get Wakins in the 3rd or 4th

I think this guy might be faster than Lee,
A common misconception is that Lee is big and fast. The guy is barley 6 feet and runs somewhere in the 4.5 range.
But he is probably the most athletic WR in the draft...

I've never seen Bryant until now. DO WANT.

Im a huge SC fan. I know Lee is not big or the fastest guy. But he does have return ability and he is more quick than fast. Could still take the top off a pro defense I think.

I would be ok with Odell Beckham JR in the 1st too. I almost prefer him over Lee.
[ Edited by JimHarbaugh on Feb 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
How'd that work out for Tommy Streeter and any number of big/fast prospects who flamed out in the NFL after having survived in college almost purely on their athleticism? You can be the most athletic guy at your college, you'll just be another guy in the NFL. I don't see anything about Bryant's abilities as a receiver that stand out and make me go "wow, he's going to be a great one." He's a very raw project that got by on his athleticism in college, will that be enough in the NFL? Highly doubtful.



Calvin Johnson is not a great receiver because he's "tall" or because he's "fast", he's a great receiver because he's highly skilled, his height and speed are a bonus, but he's got the necessary route running ability, hands and balance to be a playmaker wherever he goes. Being tall and fast might make you a good track athlete, it won't make you a good football player by itself.

I agree, i just wanted to give you my two cents on why there is a draw to big fast WRs