Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by mayo49:I don't want Lee, we already have to slow guys in Crabs and Boldin.
You must not watch USC football if you think Marquise Lee is "slow".
Let's just say he's not swift of foot.
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by mayo49:I don't want Lee, we already have to slow guys in Crabs and Boldin.
You must not watch USC football if you think Marquise Lee is "slow".
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Wow nice list. This is a DEEP draft. the more I think of it, the better a trade down may happen? Move down from 30 to 40 something and pick up another 3rd for 2015 and still not miss a Prospect.
Originally posted by Murphys1:
It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:My thoughts on Lee is that he is neither big, nor explosive. Think he will be right at 6', and will run a mediocre forty time. Hence, the movement toward the bottom of the first, Could be wrong.
I think Fuller will be a riser, pushing toward the top edge of the second round.
Matthews "liability" right now is off the LOS. Really interested to see his 10 yard split. The guy works hard, but separation might be the issue.
Loston is a good player. Definitely underrated in my opinion.
Curious to see where Ellis is taken. Mediocre Senior Bowl practices. I get suckered every year in overprojecting smaller school giant DT, and this year I am probably a bit conservative. Good prospect, but in a deeper draft slides a bit.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by Murphys1:It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.
You have to be kidding. I take Baalke any day of the week.
LOL Ya think? Anyone who thinks that some amateur in the WZ knows more than Baalke or would do a better job is crazy.
Originally posted by nw9erfan:Hey MD~ Thanks as always for your insights and hard work...
Just curious...Could you please post your picks for the 2012 draft that Baalke missed on? I'd be really curious to see how your picks turned out.
Cheers!
Originally posted by Butter:Originally posted by MadDog49er:My thoughts on Lee is that he is neither big, nor explosive. Think he will be right at 6', and will run a mediocre forty time. Hence, the movement toward the bottom of the first, Could be wrong.
I think Fuller will be a riser, pushing toward the top edge of the second round.
Matthews "liability" right now is off the LOS. Really interested to see his 10 yard split. The guy works hard, but separation might be the issue.
Loston is a good player. Definitely underrated in my opinion.
Curious to see where Ellis is taken. Mediocre Senior Bowl practices. I get suckered every year in overprojecting smaller school giant DT, and this year I am probably a bit conservative. Good prospect, but in a deeper draft slides a bit.
MD, good feedback. I'm a big fan of your work.
It'll be interesting to see how Lee does at the combine. His 40 will be key, but his medicals will be critical. If he shows some type of ongoing issue, he may drop even more.
The CB in this draft seem to be the top 2 and then a big gap. I am very intrigued by the second tier guys though. I had assumed that Blake would move up to grab one of those top two, but neither seem like no brained Pro Bowlers.
I'm kind of conflicted about Matthews. He seems to play into the strength of the Seattle corners. But like I said, I just have a gut feeling about him.
Finally, I think Loston will be solid but unspectacular, kind of like Reynolds.
This should be an interesting draft.
Originally posted by hofer36:Not much. I think Amaro will measure an inch taller and weigh an extra 10-15 pounds more, but Ebron might put on one of the most impressive showings at the combine. Both are flex TEs, and neither are good blockers at this point. It will come down to the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. While Ebron is the most impressive athlete, I tend to believe Amaro will be the better route runner and more reliable target when they get to the NFL. Both should start right away in sub packages, and if they can show their chops in blocking, become an every down starter.
so maddog what differentiates jace amaro and eric ebron as far as their rankings among tes
Originally posted by Butter:
Ok, based on Mad Dog's NOT A MOCK, heres a mock
30 Marqise Lee
I dont think he'll fall this far. If the 9ers want him, I think they trade up. But if MD is correct and Dennard and Gilbert go that high, Lee is the #3 option imho.
Trade
61+77 for 41
41 Kyle Fuller
This spot gives them their pick between Fuller, Roberson, and Roby
56 Jordan Matthews
My gut tells me he'll be good. Groomed to take over for Bolden?
Alternatives: Jarvis Landry, Robert Herron
94 Dion Bailey
Assuming they sign Whitner, groomed as heir apparent
Alternatives: Craig Loston
Trade: 125 + 158 =109
109 EJ Gaines
Another talented CB to develop
Comp pick (Goldson): Justin Ellis
I think hes long gone by here
Trade
189 + 219 = 2015 pick
220 Quincy Enuwa
Swiss Army knife type player, vicious blocker
222 George Atkinson
RB Notre Dame, competes for Dixons role?
Originally posted by thl408:Is this a top heavy draft? Evenly dispersed talent? Deep or shallow? I know nothing of these players so I thought this would be a good thread to ask this question.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by thl408:
Is this a top heavy draft? Evenly dispersed talent? Deep or shallow? I know nothing of these players so I thought this would be a good thread to ask this question.
I think it is a deeper class than top heavy class, beyond the first ten picks, the next tier to me is about the same (the next 30+ picks). Excellent value for interior linemen in the mid-rounds, and potential for a monster wide receiver even in the third round, if you get lucky, really good RBs and TEs also in the mid rounds. Not super high on the safety class after the top 3 guys. Better get ward or pryor or Dix right away because the safety class drops off quickly.