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MadDog's 2014 NFL Draft Pre-Combine Big 150 Board

Only a handful of days before we kick off the combine. Should be another action packed, exciting event.

Attempting to project the draft before the combine and campus workouts is like plowing the sea, but makes for fun conversation. Here is my projection of how the draft will shake out. This is not a mock, since trades occur, which scramble team order. This is also not a personal draft grade (Ex: I grade Carlos Hyde much higher than I believe he will be drafted)[/u][/u]. This is a projection, or slotting, of the general area I see a player being selected.

Couple notes: At the combine, the 40 time is always a center of attention. However, when looking at DL and OL, look at the 10 yard split as significantly more important. The matchup between Mack, Barr, Ford will be fascinating to see which guy has a faster burst of explosiveness. I am also a huge believer in the 3 cone drill for secondary and slot-type receivers. Finally, the on-field drills really show which secondary members have smooth footwork, which receivers round their routes, and how much knee bend and mobility OL possess. Hopefully, we will see a lot of coverage in these drills, and less talk with GM's.

Lastly, take the combine as one element in a player's evaluation. Hageman is going to be a beast at the combine, but his play is so inconsistent that smart teams will not be overwhelmed by his measurables. On the flip side, Jarvis Landry is going to run like molasses, but is much faster on the field than his forty indicates. Remember last year, the sky was falling with another Jarvis, Jones, ran in the 4.9's. He still ended up a first rounder.

The great untold story of the combine happen behind the scenes. The medicals can kill a prospects draft selection (very curious to see how teams eventually see Dominique Easley's ACLs, and interviews show what type of person the team will get (and this will be extra important following Michael Sam's revelation and the Jonathan Martin saga). _

Cheers!

2014 NFL Draft 150 Big Board
Pick Player School Position
1 Teddy Bridgewater Louisville QB
2 Blake Bortles Central Florida QB
3 Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina DE
4 Greg Robinson Auburn OT
5 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M QB
6 Khalil Mack Buffalo DE/OLB
7 Sammy Watkins Clemson WR
8 Derek Carr Fresno State QB
9 Anthony Barr UCLA LB
10 Jake Matthews Texas A&M OT
11 Kelvin Benjamin Florida State WR
12 Justin Gilbert Oklahoma State CB
13 Timmy Jernigan Florida State DT
14 Zach Martin Notre Dame OT/G
15 Darqueze Dennard Michigan St CB
16 Mike Evans Texas A&M WR
17 Kony Ealy Missouri DE/OLB
18 Cyrus Kouandjio Alabama OT
19 Taylor Lewan Michigan OT
20 Dee Ford Auburn LB
21 CJ Mosley Alabama OLB
22 Ra'Shede Hageman Minnesota DT
23 Ryan Shazier Ohio State LB
24 Eric Ebron North Carolina TE
25 Morgan Moses Virginia OT
26 Aaron Donald Pittsburgh DT
27 Calvin Pryor Louisville S
28 Jace Amaro Texas Tech TE
29 Hasean Clinton-Dix Alabama S
30 Marqise Lee USC WR
31 Louis Nix Notre Dame DT
32 Scott Crichton Oregon St DE/OLB
33 Jimmie Ward Northern Illinois S
34 David Yankey Stanford G
35 Kyle Van Noy BYU LB
36 Stephon Tuitt Notre Dame DT
37 Brandin Cooks Oregon St WR
38 Jason Varrett TCU CB
39 Carlos Hyde Ohio State RB
40 Gabe Jackson Mississippi St G
41 Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA G
42 Kyle Fuller Virginia Tech CB
43 Odell Beckham LSU WR
44 Allen Robinson Penn State WR
45 Marcus Roberson Florida CB
46 Bradley Roby Ohio State CB
47 Jimmy Garappolo Eastern Illinois QB
48 Kelcy Quarles South Carolina DT
49 Jaylen Watkins Florida CB
50 Carl Bradford Arizona St DE/OLB
51 Austin Seferian-Jenkins Washington TE
52 Tre Mason Auburn RB
53 Antonio Richardson Tennessee OT
54 Ka'Deem Carey Arizona RB
55 Lamarcus Joyner Florida State CB
56 Ed Reynolds Stanford S
57 Chris Smith Arkansas DE/OLB
58 Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska CB
59 Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt WR
60 Jarvis Landry LSU WR
61 Jackson Jeffcoat Texas DE
62 Paul Richardson Colorado WR
63 Robert Herron Wyoming WR
64 Jeremiah Attaochu Georgia Tech LB
65 Brandon Thomas Clemson OT/G
66 Donte Moncrief Arkansas WR
67 Martavis Bryant Clemson WR
68 Trevor Reilly Utah DE
69 Dominique Easley Florida DT
70 Deone Buchanon Washington St S
71 Marcus Martin USC C
72 Troy Niklas Notre Dame TE
73 Anthony Johnson LSU DT
74 Pierre Desir Lindenwood CB
75 Bishop Sankey Washington RB
76 Jack Mewhort Ohio State OT
77 Keith McGill Utah CB
78 Jeremy Hill LSU RB
79 Will Sutton Arizona St DT
80 Davante Adams Fresno State WR
81 Jared Abbrederis Wisconsin WR
82 Ego Ferguson LSU DT
83 Chris Borland Wisconsin LB
84 Marcus Smith Louisville LB
85 Travis Swanson Arkansas C
86 DaQuan Jones Penn State DT
87 Cyril Richardson Baylor G
88 Joel Bitonio Nevada OT/G
89 Bashaud Breeland Clemson CB
90 Victor Hampton South Carolina CB
91 Trent Murphy Stanford LB
92 Ja'Wuan James Tennessee OT
93 Charles Sims West Virginia RB
94 Mike Davis Texas WR
95 Cameron Fleming Stanford OT
96 Yawin Smallwood Connecticut LB
97 Louchiez Purifoy Florida CB
98 Telvin Smith Florida State SS/OLB
99 Weston Richburg Colorado St C
100 Christian Jones Florida State LB
101 Dion Bailey USC S
102 Chris Davis Auburn CB
103 CJ Fiedorowicz Iowa TE
104 Zach Mettenberger LSU QB
105 AJ McCarron Alabama QB
106 Billy Turner North Dakota St OT
107 Caraun Reid Princeton DT
108 Terrance Brooks Florida State S
109 EJ Gaines Missouri CB
110 Lache Seastrunk Baylor RB
111 Christian Kirksey Iowa LB
112 Craig Loston LSU S
113 Bruce Ellington South Carolina WR
114 Ahmad Dixon Baylor S
115 Justin Ellis Louisiana Tech DT
116 Tyler Starr South Dakota St OLB
117 Arthur Lynch Georgia TE
118 Terrance Mitchell Oregon CB
119 Bryan Stork Florida State C
120 Jon Halapio Florida G
121 Cody Latimer Indiana WR
122 Jalen Saunders Oklahoma WR
123 Devon Kennard USC LB
124 Tyler Larsen Utah St C
125 Josh Huff Oregon WR
126 Terrance West Towson RB
127 Jordan Zumwalt UCLA LB
128 Dakota Dazier Furman G
129 Devonta Freeman Florida State RB
130 Kareem Martin North Carolina DE
131 Anthony Steen Alabama G
132 Will Clarke West Virginia DE
133 Ross Cockrell Duke CB
134 Andy Murray Georgia QB
135 Josh Mauro Stanford DE
136 Andre Williams Boston College RB
137 Storm Johnson Central Florida RB
138 Logan Thomas Virginia Tech QB
139 Michael Schofield Michigan G
140 Michael Campanero Wake Forest WR
141 Seantrel Henderson Miami OT
142 Michael Sam Missouri DE/OLB
143 Daniel McCullers Tennessee DT
144 Demarcus Lawrence Boise St DE/OLB
145 Crockett Gilmore Colorado St TE
146 Brandon Coleman Rutgers WR
147 Brent Urban Virginia DE/DT
148 Walt Aikens Liberty CB
149 Denicos Allen Michigan St LB
150 Chris Watt Notre Dame G
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Feb 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM ]
Wow nice list. This is a DEEP draft. the more I think of it, the better a trade down may happen? Move down from 30 to 40 something and pick up another 3rd for 2015 and still not miss a Prospect.
Ok, based on Mad Dog's NOT A MOCK, heres a mock

30 Marqise Lee
I dont think he'll fall this far. If the 9ers want him, I think they trade up. But if MD is correct and Dennard and Gilbert go that high, Lee is the #3 option imho.

Trade
61+77 for 41
41 Kyle Fuller
This spot gives them their pick between Fuller, Roberson, and Roby

56 Jordan Matthews
My gut tells me he'll be good. Groomed to take over for Bolden?
Alternatives: Jarvis Landry, Robert Herron

94 Dion Bailey
Assuming they sign Whitner, groomed as heir apparent
Alternatives: Craig Loston

Trade: 125 + 158 =109
109 EJ Gaines
Another talented CB to develop

Comp pick (Goldson): Justin Ellis
I think hes long gone by here


Trade
189 + 219 = 2015 pick

220 Quincy Enuwa
Swiss Army knife type player, vicious blocker

222 George Atkinson
RB Notre Dame, competes for Dixons role?
It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.
Originally posted by Butter:
Ok, based on Mad Dog's NOT A MOCK, heres a mock

30 Marqise Lee
I dont think he'll fall this far. If the 9ers want him, I think they trade up. But if MD is correct and Dennard and Gilbert go that high, Lee is the #3 option imho.

Trade
61+77 for 41
41 Kyle Fuller
This spot gives them their pick between Fuller, Roberson, and Roby

56 Jordan Matthews
My gut tells me he'll be good. Groomed to take over for Bolden?
Alternatives: Jarvis Landry, Robert Herron

94 Dion Bailey
Assuming they sign Whitner, groomed as heir apparent
Alternatives: Craig Loston

Trade: 125 + 158 =109
109 EJ Gaines
Another talented CB to develop

Comp pick (Goldson): Justin Ellis
I think hes long gone by here


Trade
189 + 219 = 2015 pick

220 Quincy Enuwa
Swiss Army knife type player, vicious blocker

222 George Atkinson
RB Notre Dame, competes for Dixons role?

Not bad, but I think you may be right about Justin Ellis.
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Wow nice list. This is a DEEP draft. the more I think of it, the better a trade down may happen? Move down from 30 to 40 something and pick up another 3rd for 2015 and still not miss a Prospect.

It is a pretty good draft. Better value than top level studs like we saw in the 2011 class. The problem is finding a suitor who wants to move up from the second round into the late first. When the QB class is deeper, there is that mad rush to move up before they are gone in the mid-30's. I am not sure there is a QB in that early second range that teams want and will fight to get.
Originally posted by Butter:
Ok, based on Mad Dog's NOT A MOCK, heres a mock

30 Marqise Lee
I dont think he'll fall this far. If the 9ers want him, I think they trade up. But if MD is correct and Dennard and Gilbert go that high, Lee is the #3 option imho.

Trade
61+77 for 41
41 Kyle Fuller
This spot gives them their pick between Fuller, Roberson, and Roby

56 Jordan Matthews
My gut tells me he'll be good. Groomed to take over for Bolden?
Alternatives: Jarvis Landry, Robert Herron

94 Dion Bailey
Assuming they sign Whitner, groomed as heir apparent
Alternatives: Craig Loston

Trade: 125 + 158 =109
109 EJ Gaines
Another talented CB to develop

Comp pick (Goldson): Justin Ellis
I think hes long gone by here


Trade
189 + 219 = 2015 pick

220 Quincy Enuwa
Swiss Army knife type player, vicious blocker

222 George Atkinson
RB Notre Dame, competes for Dixons role?
My thoughts on Lee is that he is neither big, nor explosive. Think he will be right at 6', and will run a mediocre forty time. Hence, the movement toward the bottom of the first, Could be wrong.

I think Fuller will be a riser, pushing toward the top edge of the second round.

Matthews "liability" right now is off the LOS. Really interested to see his 10 yard split. The guy works hard, but separation might be the issue.

Loston is a good player. Definitely underrated in my opinion.

Curious to see where Ellis is taken. Mediocre Senior Bowl practices. I get suckered every year in overprojecting smaller school giant DT, and this year I am probably a bit conservative. Good prospect, but in a deeper draft slides a bit.
Originally posted by Murphys1:
It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.

It is a good draft, and I always do a comparative Niners' on the clock draft as it happens (you can always search for my previous year's selections). It is always interesting to look back and see who made the better selections. However, it does take a handful of years to make a real and fair final evaluation (at this time last year, many were labeling Robert Quinn a bust). Overall, Trent has been very good (2012 was a disaster, but you can't hit every year). I still prefer my picks, but that is my opinion.
I think the value of this draft is the mid-round interior linemen (the only question is which one is best..count me as a fan of Richburg and Larsen), late second round WRs, and mid-round safeties.
pretty nice mock draft,would prefer Benjammin over lee,Lee looks like he has injuries written all over him,fuller very good pick as well as 94 and 109,Matthews is not a bad pick,I just think Landry would be a BETTER pick because he has MORE speed then Matthews.....This draft is full of very Good WRs you jst can't go wrong who you pick as Long as you make sure you draft 2 WRs a speed guy and a big physical guy, Bryant can be both as well as Moncreif like Murphys1 said it like being in a Candy store you have some much to choose from.
[ Edited by jrouter4949 on Feb 18, 2014 at 8:42 AM ]
Nix and Tuitt are in our wheelhouse according to this list.
Originally posted by Murphys1:
It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.

You have to be kidding. I take Baalke any day of the week.
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I don't want Lee, we already have to slow guys in Crabs and Boldin.
Originally posted by mayo49:
I don't want Lee, we already have to slow guys in Crabs and Boldin.

You must not watch USC football if you think Marquise Lee is "slow".
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Murphys1:
It's like a kid in a candy store...there are so many good players. I often wish one of the draft gurus on this board could do our draft instead of Trent B. Really, sometimes I do. By the way, I like a trade back, but not if Lee is there. If I pick Lee, I can focus on DB and defense for the next few picks. He can be an all around WR, kind of "big AND little". I like and better than or.

You have to be kidding. I take Baalke any day of the week.

LOL Ya think? Anyone who thinks that some amateur in the WZ knows more than Baalke or would do a better job is crazy.