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Blake Bortles & "It" factor

Originally posted by Decima_Mas:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Have you seen this Kid play? or are you just basing your opinion off of what you heard/ I have watched this Kid play in at least 3 games this year and He looks very very solid, no hype...it is unfair to compare him to Gabbert whom I watched play for 2 years at Mizzou and he was NOT that good in college and He is NOt that good in the Pros either.I watch a TON of college football and so I'm not just talking about something I don't know..Bortles will be a solid QB in the Pros maybe with the right coaching staff he could become elite.

I've seen him play quite a few times and I think he is a decent prospect but I'd never spend a 1st rounder on him. He benefited from playing against less than stellar competition and having the second best defense (in terms of points allowed) in his conference. So many of his throws were to receivers who were wide open, in the NFL he won't have gaping windows like that. Also, his stats benefited from short throws that receivers turned into big gains. His one game against a premier defense (South Carolina) was Alex Smith-esque. Tons of checkdowns and receivers making some good plays after the catch. I can count on 1 hand the amount of completed passes that travelled greater than 10 yards in the air in that game.

I'm not saying he's the next Gabbert or Weeden, but it would be a mistake to take him #1. But if you're looking for a guy with spotty deep ball accuracy and a real talent for short throws, then go draft Aaron Murray later on.


Totally agree

He just isn't special. I could see the best possible outcome for his career being a Matt Ryan type guy who you surround with weapons and he lets the receivers make plays. The Andrew Luck comparisons are just horrible. Bortles is this draft season's media darling.
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by Decima_Mas:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Have you seen this Kid play? or are you just basing your opinion off of what you heard/ I have watched this Kid play in at least 3 games this year and He looks very very solid, no hype...it is unfair to compare him to Gabbert whom I watched play for 2 years at Mizzou and he was NOT that good in college and He is NOt that good in the Pros either.I watch a TON of college football and so I'm not just talking about something I don't know..Bortles will be a solid QB in the Pros maybe with the right coaching staff he could become elite.

I've seen him play quite a few times and I think he is a decent prospect but I'd never spend a 1st rounder on him. He benefited from playing against less than stellar competition and having the second best defense (in terms of points allowed) in his conference. So many of his throws were to receivers who were wide open, in the NFL he won't have gaping windows like that. Also, his stats benefited from short throws that receivers turned into big gains. His one game against a premier defense (South Carolina) was Alex Smith-esque. Tons of checkdowns and receivers making some good plays after the catch. I can count on 1 hand the amount of completed passes that travelled greater than 10 yards in the air in that game.

I'm not saying he's the next Gabbert or Weeden, but it would be a mistake to take him #1. But if you're looking for a guy with spotty deep ball accuracy and a real talent for short throws, then go draft Aaron Murray later on.


Totally agree

He just isn't special. I could see the best possible outcome for his career being a Matt Ryan type guy who you surround with weapons and he lets the receivers make plays. The Andrew Luck comparisons are just horrible. Bortles is this draft season's media darling.

bortles will be better than kaeprnick
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by Decima_Mas:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Have you seen this Kid play? or are you just basing your opinion off of what you heard/ I have watched this Kid play in at least 3 games this year and He looks very very solid, no hype...it is unfair to compare him to Gabbert whom I watched play for 2 years at Mizzou and he was NOT that good in college and He is NOt that good in the Pros either.I watch a TON of college football and so I'm not just talking about something I don't know..Bortles will be a solid QB in the Pros maybe with the right coaching staff he could become elite.

I've seen him play quite a few times and I think he is a decent prospect but I'd never spend a 1st rounder on him. He benefited from playing against less than stellar competition and having the second best defense (in terms of points allowed) in his conference. So many of his throws were to receivers who were wide open, in the NFL he won't have gaping windows like that. Also, his stats benefited from short throws that receivers turned into big gains. His one game against a premier defense (South Carolina) was Alex Smith-esque. Tons of checkdowns and receivers making some good plays after the catch. I can count on 1 hand the amount of completed passes that travelled greater than 10 yards in the air in that game.

I'm not saying he's the next Gabbert or Weeden, but it would be a mistake to take him #1. But if you're looking for a guy with spotty deep ball accuracy and a real talent for short throws, then go draft Aaron Murray later on.


Totally agree

He just isn't special. I could see the best possible outcome for his career being a Matt Ryan type guy who you surround with weapons and he lets the receivers make plays. The Andrew Luck comparisons are just horrible. Bortles is this draft season's media darling.

bortles will be better than kaeprnick

moments like this I wish there was a punctuation mark for sarcasm
Slightly better version of Shaun Hill, and I like Shaun Hill, but only as a good backup.
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by Decima_Mas:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Have you seen this Kid play? or are you just basing your opinion off of what you heard/ I have watched this Kid play in at least 3 games this year and He looks very very solid, no hype...it is unfair to compare him to Gabbert whom I watched play for 2 years at Mizzou and he was NOT that good in college and He is NOt that good in the Pros either.I watch a TON of college football and so I'm not just talking about something I don't know..Bortles will be a solid QB in the Pros maybe with the right coaching staff he could become elite.

I've seen him play quite a few times and I think he is a decent prospect but I'd never spend a 1st rounder on him. He benefited from playing against less than stellar competition and having the second best defense (in terms of points allowed) in his conference. So many of his throws were to receivers who were wide open, in the NFL he won't have gaping windows like that. Also, his stats benefited from short throws that receivers turned into big gains. His one game against a premier defense (South Carolina) was Alex Smith-esque. Tons of checkdowns and receivers making some good plays after the catch. I can count on 1 hand the amount of completed passes that travelled greater than 10 yards in the air in that game.

I'm not saying he's the next Gabbert or Weeden, but it would be a mistake to take him #1. But if you're looking for a guy with spotty deep ball accuracy and a real talent for short throws, then go draft Aaron Murray later on.


Totally agree

He just isn't special. I could see the best possible outcome for his career being a Matt Ryan type guy who you surround with weapons and he lets the receivers make plays. The Andrew Luck comparisons are just horrible. Bortles is this draft season's media darling.

bortles will be better than kaeprnick

moments like this I wish there was a punctuation mark for sarcasm

is it really that painful for you that people can have opinions differing from yours---i have been posting re brotles since october...i see a guy with prototypical size, mobility (not as good as kaeprnick's but very good none the less) he is a player that hasnt plateued yet like alot of guys entering the draft....he has a good enough arm and makes plays...kaeprnick has a great arm but still the niners passing game was nonfunctional for most of the season..yes there were alot of reasons but kaeprnick was one...he didnt always perform in clutch situations; bortles did...if he goes to houston, he will have a good guy to develop him in bill obrien..if he goes to the browns or raiders, then he probably wont be better than kaeprnick...obviously he wont fall into the most talented team in the league like kaeprnick did..but even having done so one could say he looks like a more talented version of tony banks...

you may not agree with my opinion =that is your right...i dont really care...i think bortles is going to be really good, not that kaepernick will be bad...
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by Decima_Mas:
Originally posted by MikeRumph:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Have you seen this Kid play? or are you just basing your opinion off of what you heard/ I have watched this Kid play in at least 3 games this year and He looks very very solid, no hype...it is unfair to compare him to Gabbert whom I watched play for 2 years at Mizzou and he was NOT that good in college and He is NOt that good in the Pros either.I watch a TON of college football and so I'm not just talking about something I don't know..Bortles will be a solid QB in the Pros maybe with the right coaching staff he could become elite.

I've seen him play quite a few times and I think he is a decent prospect but I'd never spend a 1st rounder on him. He benefited from playing against less than stellar competition and having the second best defense (in terms of points allowed) in his conference. So many of his throws were to receivers who were wide open, in the NFL he won't have gaping windows like that. Also, his stats benefited from short throws that receivers turned into big gains. His one game against a premier defense (South Carolina) was Alex Smith-esque. Tons of checkdowns and receivers making some good plays after the catch. I can count on 1 hand the amount of completed passes that travelled greater than 10 yards in the air in that game.

I'm not saying he's the next Gabbert or Weeden, but it would be a mistake to take him #1. But if you're looking for a guy with spotty deep ball accuracy and a real talent for short throws, then go draft Aaron Murray later on.


Totally agree

He just isn't special. I could see the best possible outcome for his career being a Matt Ryan type guy who you surround with weapons and he lets the receivers make plays. The Andrew Luck comparisons are just horrible. Bortles is this draft season's media darling.

bortles will be better than kaeprnick

moments like this I wish there was a punctuation mark for sarcasm

is it really that painful for you that people can have opinions differing from yours---i have been posting re brotles since october...i see a guy with prototypical size, mobility (not as good as kaeprnick's but very good none the less) he is a player that hasnt plateued yet like alot of guys entering the draft....he has a good enough arm and makes plays...kaeprnick has a great arm but still the niners passing game was nonfunctional for most of the season..yes there were alot of reasons but kaeprnick was one...he didnt always perform in clutch situations; bortles did...if he goes to houston, he will have a good guy to develop him in bill obrien..if he goes to the browns or raiders, then he probably wont be better than kaeprnick...obviously he wont fall into the most talented team in the league like kaeprnick did..but even having done so one could say he looks like a more talented version of tony banks...

you may not agree with my opinion =that is your right...i dont really care...i think bortles is going to be really good, not that kaepernick will be bad...

I couldn't tell if you were serious or not, no need to go on a diatribe about differing opinions. And cool, go believe he's gonna be better than Kap. I'm not here to stop you from believing that. I just think Bortles is the obviously overhyped.
Yea he shows no fear in the pocket even under pressure from college players.....now you have men going after you.....we shall see how his happy feet look then....Im calling it BUST!!!!!!
I like this Guy. I like his game, size, play style. everything. If I was a GM looking for a QB, I'd go after this guy. I think he'll be a very good Pro QB in the NFL. Top 5-10 pick no doubt in my personal mind. He took a very average UCF team to a very nice BCS Fiesta Bowl win. He has clutch factor. If for whatever reason he was to slip, Wow I'd take a stab at him.
"IT" factor is not a rating on Madden.