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AB's Annual Collaborative Mock Draft, picks thread DRAFT COMPLETED

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Debating is the reason why doing mock drafts is fun. communist is my dude


As for the Niners-pick:
Don't worry I won't kill you...way too easy. First I will torture you with endless discussion, then you will commit suicide
If I count correctly, we would have some issues to get Dorsey/Williams/Dial, RayMac/TJE, Justin/Tank/Tuitt in the 53 roster, won't we?



I love to discuss.

Not worried about 53 man roster. Injuries are common on Dline and competition makes everyone better. Tuitt has tremendous potential. We just watched Seattle (and Giants two years ago) win Super-bowls with constant rotations on D-line which helped them put pressure on QB throughout the game.


Ppl always talk about how to beat Seattle and they bring up WRs. To me...it's about stopping Lynch. Almost every single time he breaks one for a TD against us. We need to keep our DL fresh and we may need a little more size up front. Tuitt is exactly the kind of DE we need.

We need depth and Tuitt is a natural fit for our team. He is a 5-technique DL as he has had plenty of snaps at DE in 3-4 defense. He will able to contribute right away. There are plenty of WRs and CBs in the draft for us to pick from. We don't have to reach for one to fill a need.
You're going to stop Lynch with depth?

Yes. He's a bruising RB. He has hurt us in 2nd half often. Having a fresh Dline is definitely a way to stop any offense. They show time of possession stat for a reason

That fatigue is the issue is conjecture. It just as easily could be half-time adjustments or that the Niners' offense was impotent.Maybe a 1st class NT is needed to stop Lynch, but not another DE.

I've to disagree. It's mostly fatigue. Frank Gore used to this all the time and still does from time to time. Keeps getting couple yards in the 1st 3 quarter and then breaks a big one in the 4th. Like I said...one of the reasons why time of possession is a crucial because of this factor. Going against a big back...that's always a concern...and Lynch is easily the best bruising back we have in the game today and Seattle keeps feeding him.

There is no point in waiting for Justin to retire and then addressing the situation...and because Tuitt has had experience as a 5 technique tackle/end - he'll be able to come in and help from the get go.

...and Ray McDonald is always an injury risk and Justin is getting older and it'll be better for us to sub him out more often during the regular season...so he can go all out in the post-season.

To get a top notch NT - you've to be near top 10...not at 30th pick.
With the 33rd pick, the Houston Texans select Scott Chricton, DE out of Oregon State.

Dont know what scheme Romeo Crennel plans on using but this kid can play DE in the 4-3 or switch to OLB in the 3-4 as a pass rush specialist. Ideally, the Texans would hope to grab OT Morgan Moses but cant pass up the value here.
Redskins take OLB/DE Trent Murphy, Stanford, since Orakpo is a FA, and Murphy could play some End, as Adam Carriker is a possible cap cut.
Browns take Timmy Jernigan DT Florida St.
I would rather pick up carriker cheap then draft tuitt
Originally posted by solidg2000:
I would rather pick up carriker cheap then draft tuitt

lolwutlol
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
I would rather pick up carriker cheap then draft tuitt

lolwutlol

If he's cut due to salary he would be a great pick up
Fits our scheme perfectly!
A total justin smith type work horse
Terrible scheme in St. Louis and then a bad injury in Washington have slowed his career.
But I still think he's a great player in the right situation

I just don't think a 1st round DE is smart
Originally posted by solidg2000:
If he's cut due to salary he would be a great pick up
Fits our scheme perfectly!
A total justin smith type work horse
Terrible scheme in St. Louis and then a bad injury in Washington have slowed his career.
But I still think he's a great player in the right situation

I just don't think a 1st round DE is smart

He's average at best. We have several picks in top 100 - we can go out and draft the bpa in 1st round. Outside of QB, ILB, and T every position of significance should be on table
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Debating is the reason why doing mock drafts is fun. communist is my dude


As for the Niners-pick:
Don't worry I won't kill you...way too easy. First I will torture you with endless discussion, then you will commit suicide
If I count correctly, we would have some issues to get Dorsey/Williams/Dial, RayMac/TJE, Justin/Tank/Tuitt in the 53 roster, won't we?



I love to discuss.

Not worried about 53 man roster. Injuries are common on Dline and competition makes everyone better. Tuitt has tremendous potential. We just watched Seattle (and Giants two years ago) win Super-bowls with constant rotations on D-line which helped them put pressure on QB throughout the game.


Ppl always talk about how to beat Seattle and they bring up WRs. To me...it's about stopping Lynch. Almost every single time he breaks one for a TD against us. We need to keep our DL fresh and we may need a little more size up front. Tuitt is exactly the kind of DE we need.

We need depth and Tuitt is a natural fit for our team. He is a 5-technique DL as he has had plenty of snaps at DE in 3-4 defense. He will able to contribute right away. There are plenty of WRs and CBs in the draft for us to pick from. We don't have to reach for one to fill a need.
You're going to stop Lynch with depth?

Yes. He's a bruising RB. He has hurt us in 2nd half often. Having a fresh Dline is definitely a way to stop any offense. They show time of possession stat for a reason

That fatigue is the issue is conjecture. It just as easily could be half-time adjustments or that the Niners' offense was impotent.Maybe a 1st class NT is needed to stop Lynch, but not another DE.

I've to disagree. It's mostly fatigue. Frank Gore used to this all the time and still does from time to time. Keeps getting couple yards in the 1st 3 quarter and then breaks a big one in the 4th. Like I said...one of the reasons why time of possession is a crucial because of this factor. Going against a big back...that's always a concern...and Lynch is easily the best bruising back we have in the game today and Seattle keeps feeding him.

There is no point in waiting for Justin to retire and then addressing the situation...and because Tuitt has had experience as a 5 technique tackle/end - he'll be able to come in and help from the get go.

...and Ray McDonald is always an injury risk and Justin is getting older and it'll be better for us to sub him out more often during the regular season...so he can go all out in the post-season.

To get a top notch NT - you've to be near top 10...not at 30th pick.

I agree with the selection of Tuitt, but only if he fell to our lap at 30. You're giving up a very good player in the 2nd round. In this deep draft, I don't think it's a good move.
With the # 36 overall pick, the Oakland Raiders select...

-- DE / Marcus Smith {Louisville}



I have Marcus Smith ranked #40 on my BB. ... and Oakland is in need of pass rush... with or without UFA Lamarr Houston re-signing.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
If he's cut due to salary he would be a great pick up
Fits our scheme perfectly!
A total justin smith type work horse
Terrible scheme in St. Louis and then a bad injury in Washington have slowed his career.
But I still think he's a great player in the right situation

I just don't think a 1st round DE is smart

He's average at best. We have several picks in top 100 - we can go out and draft the bpa in 1st round. Outside of QB, ILB, and T every position of significance should be on table

I agree with that about BPA, so why trade up and waste a pick in order to draft the BPA
You trade up for an upgrade or need. No DE drafted by us this year will start over McDonald and Smith

Carriker is an above average player imo
[ Edited by solidg2000 on Feb 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM ]
Dee Ford reminds me of Von Miller and Julian Peterson so much. He is a guy who can play OLB in 3-4 and 4-3. On passing downs, he can play at the End and Rams like to move Long inside anyway. Rams need a starting OLB and getting someone in the mold of Miller/Peterson in the 2nd round is too much value to pass up.

His was very impressive at the Senior Bowl as well.

OLB Dee Ford, Auburn
Originally posted by solidg2000:
I agree with that about BPA, so why trade up and waste a pick in order to draft the BPA
You trade up for an upgrade or need. No DE drafted by us this year will start over McDonald and Smith

Carriker is an above average player imo

Didn't waste a pick. Only traded back a few spots in the 3rd. We have so many picks...it's ok to move up to draft a player who has tremendous potential.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
I agree with that about BPA, so why trade up and waste a pick in order to draft the BPA
You trade up for an upgrade or need. No DE drafted by us this year will start over McDonald and Smith

Carriker is an above average player imo

Didn't waste a pick. Only traded back a few spots in the 3rd. We have so many picks...it's ok to move up to draft a player who has tremendous potential.

Realistically GB would never do that trade lol
If we were being true to the draft it would of been
our 1st, and ten 3rd for their 1st (see Eric Reid draft trade)

If he falls to us, it's one thing. But to trade up is another.
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
I agree with that about BPA, so why trade up and waste a pick in order to draft the BPA
You trade up for an upgrade or need. No DE drafted by us this year will start over McDonald and Smith

Carriker is an above average player imo

Didn't waste a pick. Only traded back a few spots in the 3rd. We have so many picks...it's ok to move up to draft a player who has tremendous potential.

Realistically GB would never do that trade lol
If we were being true to the draft it would of been
our 1st, and ten 3rd for their 1st (see Eric Reid draft trade)

If he falls to us, it's one thing. But to trade up is another.

True...and I don't have a problem with trading away a 3rd to move up and get a player who has one of the highest potential.