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The reason wanting to draft a "Big Frame" WR is just overrated

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sterling sharpe 5-11
greatest all-around receiving talent ever.
career shortened by 5 or 6 years, but should be in the HOF nonetheless.
[ Edited by xcfan on Feb 1, 2014 at 10:53 AM ]
Originally posted by xcfan:
sterling sharpe 5-11
greatest all-around receiving talent ever.
career shortened by 5 or 6 years, but should be in the HOF nonetheless.

6'0" 207 lbs. I've seen him listed sometimes as 6'1" btw. Anyway 207 - 210 lbs. playing weight is hardly small given a lot of DB's are like 180 lbs. He was certainly more bulky and stronger than them.

http://www.nfl.com/player/sterlingsharpe/2502907/profile
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Feb 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'2" 200 lbs. (his playing weight) absolutely is "tall" and big bodied. It's bigger than average. The average American male is 5'9" - 5'10"ish. A lot of DB's in that era and today are around 5'10" 180 lbs. Leaving him significantly bigger than his average opponent. He played before the Richard Sherman Seattle DB type was in vogue. Now people look for 6'3" - 6'4" safetys and corners. That wasn't always the case.

Yeah it also should be noted that there weren't many larger receivers playing back then. The league evolves. Perhaps we should be looking for a 280 pound guards as well.
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

How is this even an argument? Most of the top WR's in the league are tall big bodied receivers - 6-2+ & 220+.

Most ?

23 wide receivers had over 1000 yards this year, of those 23 receivers 10 were 6"1 or shorter.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'2" 200 lbs. (his playing weight) absolutely is "tall" and big bodied. It's bigger than average. The average American male is 5'9" - 5'10"ish. A lot of DB's in that era and today are around 5'10" 180 lbs. Leaving him significantly bigger than his average opponent. He played before the Richard Sherman Seattle DB type was in vogue. Now people look for 6'3" - 6'4" safetys and corners. That wasn't always the case.

Yeah it also should be noted that there weren't many larger receivers playing back then. The league evolves. Perhaps we should be looking for a 280 pound guards as well.

Rice indeed played with some 280 lb. Guards. That would be too small today. For his time era he was no doubt big. A taller, bigger framed WR. Albeit not huge. But he was certainly not small and bigger than average for certain.
Originally posted by buck:
Top 10 wide receivers in the 2014 draft class

1. Kelvin Benjamin Florida St 6-5 234
2. Mike Evans Texas A&M 6-5 218
3. Brandon Coleman Rutgers 6-5 220
4. Martavis Bryant Clemson 6-5 190
5. Anthony Denham Utah 6-4 222
6. Marcus Lucas Missouri 6-4 220
7. Quintin Payton North Carolina St 6-4 211
8. Deon Miller Temple 6-4 210
9. Corey Washington Newberry 6-4 207
10. Chris Boyd Vanderbilt 6-4 205
Be careful buck, you might be accused of being . . . . um. . . . inauthentic

Here's what I think the top 10 WR's in the 2014 is:

1. Mike Evens, 6-5, 225, Texas A&M
2. Kelvin Benjamin, 6-5, 234, Florida State
3. Sammy Watkins, 6-1, 205, Clemson
4. Allen Robingson, 6-3, 210, Penn State
5. Jordan Mathews, 6-3, 209, Vanderbilt
6. Cody Hoffman, 6-4, 218, BYU
7. Davante Adams, 6-2, 216, Fresno State
8. Brandon Coleman, 6-5, 220, Rutgers
9. Marcus Lucas, 6-4, 220, Missouri
10. Martavis Bryant, 6-4, 200, Clemson
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'2" 200 lbs. (his playing weight) absolutely is "tall" and big bodied. It's bigger than average. The average American male is 5'9" - 5'10"ish. A lot of DB's in that era and today are around 5'10" 180 lbs. Leaving him significantly bigger than his average opponent. He played before the Richard Sherman Seattle DB type was in vogue. Now people look for 6'3" - 6'4" safetys and corners. That wasn't always the case.
200 pounds and 6-2 is absolute average at WR, especially 200 pounds is not that much. A smaller DB whose weight is about 190 pounds would tackle him easily.
[ Edited by communist on Feb 1, 2014 at 1:50 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Be careful buck, you might be accused of being . . . . um. . . . inauthentic

Here's what I think the top 10 WR's in the 2014 is:

1. Mike Evens, 6-5, 225, Texas A&M
2. Kelvin Benjamin, 6-5, 234, Florida State
3. Sammy Watkins, 6-1, 205, Clemson
4. Allen Robingson, 6-3, 210, Penn State
5. Jordan Mathews, 6-3, 209, Vanderbilt
6. Cody Hoffman, 6-4, 218, BYU
7. Davante Adams, 6-2, 216, Fresno State
8. Brandon Coleman, 6-5, 220, Rutgers
9. Marcus Lucas, 6-4, 220, Missouri
10. Martavis Bryant, 6-4, 200, Clemson
For this post I will assume that you are dead-serious:
I like Brandon Coleman but he has no right to be in any top10-ranking.
Bryant is another example of a athlete who sometimes can play football.
Where is Moncrief or Abbrederis?
Why is Watkins below Benjamin????
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'2" 200 lbs. (his playing weight) absolutely is "tall" and big bodied. It's bigger than average. The average American male is 5'9" - 5'10"ish. A lot of DB's in that era and today are around 5'10" 180 lbs. Leaving him significantly bigger than his average opponent. He played before the Richard Sherman Seattle DB type was in vogue. Now people look for 6'3" - 6'4" safetys and corners. That wasn't always the case.
200 pounds and 6-2 is absolute average at WR, especially 200 pounds is not that much. A smaller receiver whose weight is about 190 pounds would tackle him easily.

The DB's he was going up against were 5'10" 180 lbs. 6'2" is not "average." Look up the average height and weight of American males. That's north of the average then and it's north of the average now. It's not huge like 6'5" Megatron. But it's not small.
Originally posted by buck:
Top 10 wide receivers in the 2014 draft class

1. Kelvin Benjamin Florida St 6-5 234
2. Mike Evans Texas A&M 6-5 218
3. Brandon Coleman Rutgers 6-5 220
4. Martavis Bryant Clemson 6-5 190
5. Anthony Denham Utah 6-4 222
6. Marcus Lucas Missouri 6-4 220
7. Quintin Payton North Carolina St 6-4 211
8. Deon Miller Temple 6-4 210
9. Corey Washington Newberry 6-4 207
10. Chris Boyd Vanderbilt 6-4 205


wtf lol is this the top 10 wrs or top 10 tallest wrs. it aint all about size! the GOAT who we were blessed to have a niner ws not the biggest and yes i know he played in a different generation. we need sammy watkins. we need speed and a player who is ready to play now not in 2 years hes perfect size for the player we need and is obviously more than skilled. we need a player with the quickness to get open an get behind dbs and he is it. hes gonna be really costly as far as draft picks go but wev had moer than enuf picks for 2 years now we can afford to trade them for a home run hitter like this
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The DB's he was going up against were 5'10" 180 lbs. 6'2" is not "average." Look up the average height and weight of American males. That's north of the average then and it's north of the average now. It's not huge like 6'5" Megatron. But it's not small.
We are not talking about avg American males but about football players, receivers in particular.
Originally posted by stefano89:
wtf lol is this the top 10 wrs or top 10 tallest wrs. it aint all about size! the GOAT who we were blessed to have a niner ws not the biggest and yes i know he played in a different generation. we need sammy watkins. we need speed and a player who is ready to play now not in 2 years hes perfect size for the player we need and is obviously more than skilled. we need a player with the quickness to get open an get behind dbs and he is it. hes gonna be really costly as far as draft picks go but wev had moer than enuf picks for 2 years now we can afford to trade them for a home run hitter like this
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Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by jreff22:
When I see small and shifty work for us I will agree with you. AJ sucked and Patton spent the majority of the year hurt.

So you would take an inferior football player just because they were bigger?

No one is saying that they wouldn't take the bigger guy if all else was equal, but this idea that we should just blindly take the biggest guy available instead of the best guy available is impossibly stupid.
Given equal talent, I would take the bigger guy. The ability to go up and over any DB is a great quality to have.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The DB's he was going up against were 5'10" 180 lbs. 6'2" is not "average." Look up the average height and weight of American males. That's north of the average then and it's north of the average now. It's not huge like 6'5" Megatron. But it's not small.

Whoa whoa, let's not exagerate things.

Deion Sanders
Rod Woodson
Mike Haynes
Everson Walls
Aenas Williams

Just a few examples of good corners who went up against Jerry who were bigger than 5"10 180. Plenty more corners from that era who were bigger than the size you listed as well. Corners who were bigger than 5"10 180 in that era were not some rare breed.
didn't "lighter than sh*t" (says browner) TY Hilton absolutly torch seattle?
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