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Perfect draft in my eyes..
Jan 28, 2014 at 7:39 AM
- communist
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solid mock. but still no REAL vertical speed at WR...No, neither Robinson nor Bryant provide this.
Jan 28, 2014 at 10:04 AM
- dmax
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
Round 1...trade our 1st and titans 3rd to move up to the late teens..Justin Gilbert..perfect selection..kill 2 birds with 1 stone..our return man and starting cb from day 1..
Round 2...trade kcs second and our 6th to move up..Allen Robinson..big fast athletic..exactly what we don't have all in 1..
Round 2...Deone Buchanan..the more I watch him on youtube the more I like him..his style fits right in with ours..the duo of him and reid would feel real good for a long time..
Round 3...Bryan Stork...leader of fsu line..insurance if Kilgore is not the answer..
Round 3...Stanley Jean-Baptiste..big athletic corner who can compete with cox for number 4 assuming cully is back to strength..
Round 4...Martavis Bryant...again a big fast strong wr that we don't have..now we have 2..
Round 4...Troy Niklas...not sure is he will be around by this time but hes a beast..huge..gives McDonald comp..
Round 5...traded for a early 6th this year and 4th next year...
Round 6...Max Bullough..no one knows why he was suspended for the bowl game but he is a great player who gives it his all every down..depth and special teams future star..
Round 7...Logan Thomas...1 year ago he was considered a future 1st rounder..not now but obviously he has talent n size with a strong arm..harbaugh special..
Round 7...Trey Millard...baalke lnjury special..great player when healthy..exactly what you all were considering him as..swiss army knife..
Round 7...Aaron Colvin...another 1..? yess 2nd round pick if not injured at the senior bowl..
Round 7...Brandon Thomas...not very familiar with him..
Jan 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM
- WRATHman44
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Originally posted by communist:
solid mock. but still no REAL vertical speed at WR...No, neither Robinson nor Bryant provide this.
I thought Bryant was really fast...
Am I confused?
Jan 30, 2014 at 12:54 PM
- communist
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I am not talking about relatively fast but about BLAZING fast, on the field, not on a track.
Jan 30, 2014 at 2:07 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by communist:
I am not talking about relatively fast but about BLAZING fast, on the field, not on a track.
like who..? who in the 4th round would you consider drafting that's is a blazing fast wr..?
Jan 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM
- communist
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Did I say that we should go for a fast WR in the 4th round? No, I didn't. Bechkham Jr., Herron, Cooks are fast, Abbrederis is almost as fast as the aforementioned, imo.
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:03 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by communist:
Did I say that we should go for a fast WR in the 4th round? No, I didn't. Bechkham Jr., Herron, Cooks are fast, Abbrederis is almost as fast as the aforementioned, imo.
im asking in the 4th bc of my mock obviously..but I agree they all are dynamic and quick fast players..wouldn't mind drafting any of them..but going with how my mock is can u answer my question bc id remove Martavis Bryant if there was a player like them available..
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:14 PM
- communist
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You can go for Bryant in the 4th imo. Then, you should go for a faster WR in the 2nd, imo. Herron could be available at the end of the 2nd.
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by communist:
You can go for Bryant in the 4th imo. Then, you should go for a faster WR in the 2nd, imo. Herron could be available at the end of the 2nd.
ok so you would rather Herron over Robinson..he is faster and more dynamic with the ball in his hands..who do you think will have the fastest 40..? out of every1 in the draft..
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:38 PM
- communist
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Look, for me the most important thing is the player type you draft. Assuming that Boldin, Crabtree and Patton (and Osgood) will stay, we need another explosive guy to have it even.
You can also turn your draft around and go for Robinson in the 2nd and a fast guy in the 4th.
I think that D'Anthony Thomas could run a very fast 40 but who cares. At the end of the day the teams are looking for football players and not track stars.
You can also turn your draft around and go for Robinson in the 2nd and a fast guy in the 4th.
I think that D'Anthony Thomas could run a very fast 40 but who cares. At the end of the day the teams are looking for football players and not track stars.
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:44 PM
- jersey49er
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I agree we want football players..and hopefully harbaugh and baalke don't fall in love with a speedster bc he is a speedster..like other teams have..a lot..so I understand where ur coming from..and what your saying..
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM
- communist
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another thing is that we are good at getting CBs in lower rounds, like Brown, Cooper, Brock or Cully. I think that this is not a coincidence, thus I would expect us to go for a CB late. At least, we won't trade much to get our guy. Additionally, the CB-class is really deep, much deeper than the already deep WR-class, imho.
Jan 30, 2014 at 3:58 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Originally posted by communist:Michael Irvin was a big play threat and ran a 4.5 . Jerry Rice was never considered fast but he made a ton of huge plays down the field and well as stretching short passes in to big plays. There are possession receivers, receivers with good speed and speed burners. the more speed the better but I will take a great receiver with good speed over an average speed burner any day. Crabtree and Boldin are both possession receivers. great ones and great playmakers but possession type speed. The problem is you don't have to worry about covering them 1 on 1 because they can't blow by you. A great receiver with good speed can blow by you, Jerry Rice did it a ton of times.
Look, for me the most important thing is the player type you draft. Assuming that Boldin, Crabtree and Patton (and Osgood) will stay, we need another explosive guy to have it even.
You can also turn your draft around and go for Robinson in the 2nd and a fast guy in the 4th.
I think that D'Anthony Thomas could run a very fast 40 but who cares. At the end of the day the teams are looking for football players and not track stars.
A great speed burner would be nice but they are usually top 10 or 15 picks. There are a lot of dynamic receivers in this draft with good speed who can get deep. Terrel Owens got deep all the time when he was a 49er and he wasn't a burner. I would love another TO , minus the attitude of course.
Jan 30, 2014 at 4:03 PM
- KungFuJoe
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I just can't get excited for picking WRs high in the draft with our offense. Boldin and Crabs are nearly as good as it gets and our passing attack is only midly productive.. We didn't do jack with Jenkins, and Baldwin who was a reasonably productive receiver in KC, doesn't have a yard with us.
I'd rather us pick up a talented TE. Then again, we tried that too...
I'd rather us pick up a talented TE. Then again, we tried that too...
[ Edited by KungFuJoe on Jan 30, 2014 at 4:05 PM ]
Jan 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by communist:
another thing is that we are good at getting CBs in lower rounds, like Brown, Cooper, Brock or Cully. I think that this is not a coincidence, thus I would expect us to go for a CB late. At least, we won't trade much to get our guy. Additionally, the CB-class is really deep, much deeper than the already deep WR-class, imho.
that's a very good point but I think if we can pull off a trade like last year to get either Gilbert or Dennard then we pull the trigger bc it would solidify our starting cbs for 4 years..brock and 1 of the 2..then culliver in the slot and if he decides to leave a vet/late rd pick/Darryl morris..I think we definitely go cb in the 1st..wr in the 2nd unless a top wr ( Watkins,Lee,Evans) falls..i think my mock is correct with positions just maybe not the players.
[ Edited by jersey49er on Jan 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM ]