Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:I can understand your concern but I've watched a ton of film on him and he plays/hits alot bigger then that. I can count on 1 hand how many jump balls have been thrown on Earl Thomas in 4 years. Scouts get caught up too many times with measurables/speed. Taylor Mays was a work out warrior but watch film on him and he couldn't cover a bank with a gun. Goldson/Whitner have all the measurables but time after time Julio Jones,Jacoby Jones and Doug Baldwin get behind them in the playoffs for big plays. I'll take the 5'8" Joyner all day in coverage while others will take Goldson/Whitner who give up big plays and 15 yard penalty's.
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
MadDog49er, The guy I want playing free safety for the 49ers next season is Lamarcus Joyner from Florida St. The days of knocking receivers out is over. Joyner is built in the mold of Earl Thomas and can cover all over the field. He can run with slot receivers and also come up and hit you in the mouth in the run game.
He is such a good player that I think he will make it in the NFL. However, when he comes in under 5'8", which is where he is listed right now, it simply limits what he can do. Expect him to be a terrific nickel corner in the NFL, covering slot guys like Welker and Amendola. He will end up at least two inches shorter than Earl Thomas, who is one of the smaller Safeties in the NFL. Call me a skeptic on his chances at safety in the NFL.
It's not so simple. Yes Mays had some measurables (although I bet his agility tests wouldn't be so great if he did them at the combine), but his film and stats were really really poor. Other players have everything except size and fail also. You just don't hear much about them (Ty Hill is one that always stands out to me). Sometimes good measurables predict success moreso than college production (Poe) and sometimes not (Vernon Gholston) Sometimes a player can overcome physical limitations (Matheua) and sometimes not. 5'8" is really really small. This is the guy who is supposed the bring down Lynch? The concern is not off-base. His skills are well noted, and is the only reason he's even being talked about at all, because his size should disqualify him from NFL considerations, if his athleticism and performance is anything short of extraordinary.