Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Seems like folks are going overboard on the scouting of these tall corners. But It's not like Seattle just got successful. They were last year as well. It's just hard to find tall good corners. I actually think Baptiste and McGill are 3rd/4th rounders. But folks seem to be really hype on these guys being drafted fairley early for thier skillset. These dudes are super raw. I like Baptisite a little bit more than McGill but i don't see much seperation between the two. I need to look more into Desir.
Just curious, what makes you think guys like Baptiste, Desir, Dontae Johnson or Walt Aikens are more "raw" than other non-first round corners? SJB has played CB for 3 years now, Desir has played corner for his entire college career and Aikens has played CB for 3 years. Even Dontae Johnson has 2+ years of playing corner at NC State which is the same as Lamarcus Joyner. Not sure anyone would consider Joyner "raw."
The only guy who legitimately can be called raw is McGill with only one season of big-time college football as a corner and injuries have been a bigger factor in him not getting enough action. I'd be more concerned about that with McGill than anything else.
For me, it is technique, not playing experience.
Again, I think technique is an issue with most high-upside 2nd+ round corners, which is often why they're not 1st rounders. Proper technique can be taught, size/speed can't and to a certain extent, neither can great ball skills. It's a preference thing for me, but I'd rather have a less polished athlete with enough of the requisite size/skills/athleticism to be coached up, so long as they also have the drive/motivation to learn and be great. Without the latter part, you're stuck with a bunch of Raiders draft picks which is NOT something I advocate.
All that said, if the size-thing isn't part of your scheme, than of course you don't want to draft these kinds of guys. Seattle has an entire philosophy that incorporates manic pressure from the d-line, cover LBs to run sideline-to-sideline, big corners to disrupt/frustrate timing and a FS that cleans everything else up. So unless you have an entire system that can take advantage of big/press corners, it's not wise to draft them. Truly, if Seattle didn't bring as much pressure as they do, those corners would NOT be nearly as effective covering downfield.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 27, 2014 at 1:09 PM ]