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LaMarcus Joyner-CB/S-FSU

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
As far as TE's go, that's what you have safeties for.

As a slot corner, why would his height be a major hindrance?

A FS is going to be covering less in our defense, playing center field where as our SS will be covering TE's a lot as well as helping with run support. If we drafted him to be a SS would you feel comfortable in Joyner covering TE's? Sure if we drafted him as a slot CB his height wouldn't make as much difference because he would be going against a lot of quicker shorter guys. Let's say we draft him as a SS though. Again, do you feel comfortable if he is covering the bigger taller WR like TE's of the league? Will be interesting to see if Joyner gets drafted as a CB or SS and Ward gets drafted as a FS, CB, or SS (by someone like us).
Originally posted by Gore_21:
A FS is going to be covering less in our defense, playing center field where as our SS will be covering TE's a lot as well as helping with run support. If we drafted him to be a SS would you feel comfortable in Joyner covering TE's? Sure if we drafted him as a slot CB his height wouldn't make as much difference because he would be going against a lot of quicker shorter guys. Let's say we draft him as a SS though. Again, do you feel comfortable if he is covering the bigger taller WR like TE's of the league? Will be interesting to see if Joyner gets drafted as a CB or SS and Ward gets drafted as a FS, CB, or SS (by someone like us).

Fangio's defense uses interchangeable safeties. We don't really have a free and strong safety in the traditional sense.

Joyner plays much bigger than his measurables. He's about as athletic and physical as you're going to find.

That said, I do think he's a better fit as a slot corner as he excels in press man.
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WANT. Wish he'd tumble into the 2nd.

Like to get Cooks in the 1st, trade up from our second to get Joyner, and take Moncrief with KC's second
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
WANT. Wish he'd tumble into the 2nd.

Like to get Cooks in the 1st, trade up from our second to get Joyner, and take Moncrief with KC's second

I firmly believe Joyner will be selected somewhere in the 2nd. He is a playmaker, no doubt, but he checked into the combine smaller than anticipated.

Measurables: 5' 7 3/4" 184, and expected to run around a 4.5

Bob Sanders was 5' 8 3/8" 205 and ran a 4.3 and was a monster playmaker at Iowa and fell to the 2nd. Joyner will be there. I would love to have him, but just not in the 1st.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I firmly believe Joyner will be selected somewhere in the 2nd. He is a playmaker, no doubt, but he checked into the combine smaller than anticipated.

Measurables: 5' 7 3/4" 184, and expected to run around a 4.5

Bob Sanders was 5' 8 3/8" 205 and ran a 4.3 and was a monster playmaker at Iowa and fell to the 2nd. Joyner will be there. I would love to have him, but just not in the 1st.

Cool. I always want the players I like to disappoint at the combine. I'd much rather look like an idiot for talking them up and have the 49ers get them as a steal, than be proven correct by the underwear olympics, and have them priced out of the 49ers range.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I firmly believe Joyner will be selected somewhere in the 2nd. He is a playmaker, no doubt, but he checked into the combine smaller than anticipated.

Measurables: 5' 7 3/4" 184, and expected to run around a 4.5

Bob Sanders was 5' 8 3/8" 205 and ran a 4.3 and was a monster playmaker at Iowa and fell to the 2nd. Joyner will be there. I would love to have him, but just not in the 1st.

Where did you get that measurement from? Everywhere I've looked he's exactly 5'8"...........


http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/lamarcus-joyner?id=2543492
Was Bob Sanders hurt a lot in college, or just the NFL?
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Was Bob Sanders hurt a lot in college, or just the NFL?

Not sure, but Sanders' size had nothing to do with having a high ankle sprain, a bad knee or a torn bicep (his major injuries). Those injuries are common to football players at all positions regardless of size.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I firmly believe Joyner will be selected somewhere in the 2nd. He is a playmaker, no doubt, but he checked into the combine smaller than anticipated.

Measurables: 5' 7 3/4" 184, and expected to run around a 4.5

Bob Sanders was 5' 8 3/8" 205 and ran a 4.3 and was a monster playmaker at Iowa and fell to the 2nd. Joyner will be there. I would love to have him, but just not in the 1st.

Where did you get that measurement from? Everywhere I've looked he's exactly 5'8"...........


http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/lamarcus-joyner?id=2543492

Exactly. Not that it really matters much, but he's listed at just about everywhere I've seen as 5'8" on the dot.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Was Bob Sanders hurt a lot in college, or just the NFL?

Not sure, but Sanders' size had nothing to do with having a high ankle sprain, a bad knee or a torn bicep (his major injuries). Those injuries are common to football players at all positions regardless of size.

Ghost, you still like him best as a S? I'd love to see him and Reid busting guys up and frustrating QBs for us.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Was Bob Sanders hurt a lot in college, or just the NFL?

with Colts more than with the Hawkeyes. I don't recall ever hearing him having to sit out any of the Big10 games. PS I strictly going off my memories.
Originally posted by Negrodamus:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Was Bob Sanders hurt a lot in college, or just the NFL?

with Colts more than with the Hawkeyes. I don't recall ever hearing him having to sit out any of the Big10 games. PS I strictly going off my memories.

Joyner and Verrett are very close to the same size.

Joyner, Lamarcus. Florida State
5080
184
31 1/2 arm length
9 1/4 hand

Verrett, Jason. TCU
5090
189
30 5/8
9 1/4