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  • sfout
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Originally posted by pfizz:
lol "roids" and "severely dehydrated". i can tell you have no idea what you're talking about so I won't even bother.

I can tell you don't either. Just cause you "work with" "professionals" doesn't make you knowledgable about a topic. You literally picked the most shredded photo you could find when BFP% can be low as hell and have nothing to do with muscle mass. Have fun being close minded. Moving on.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
RB Updates


Dri Archer-5'8", 173.

Antonio Andrews-5'10", 225

J.C. Copeland-FB-5'11", 271

Storm Johnson-6'0", 209

Silas Redd-5'10", 212.

Trey Millard-6'2", 247

Nice...

Archer came in taller than I expected. Can't wait to see what he runs tho I'm hoping for a poor showing by him so he can be had later on.
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Vernon looks soft? You must be kidding, dude. Vernon is a machine. NFL athletes are routinely well- (or even over) hydrated, filling out the gaps in their form, and greatly decreasing the appearance of vascularity. One's hydration level does not influence their body fat percentage (due to neutral buouancy), but it greatly affects their appearance. I played at 5-6% and 240lbs in college (for my first three years; I got injured and FAT my last year), and I didn't look like a body builder at any point. Elite ballistic athletes (explosive sprints vs marathons) often have denser muscle tissue (function over form), with a decreased % of stored brown fat tissue (what makes dark meat dark), which decreases body fat %, without affecting appearance.

Thank you Wrath lol.
Carlos Hyde is gonna beast. Better player than Lacy.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
RB Updates


Dri Archer-5'8", 173.

Antonio Andrews-5'10", 225

J.C. Copeland-FB-5'11", 271

Storm Johnson-6'0", 209

Silas Redd-5'10", 212.

Trey Millard-6'2", 247

Nice...

Archer came in taller than I expected. Can't wait to see what he runs tho I'm hoping for a poor showing by him so he can be had later on.

well you don't want a poor showing. He's already going to be available in day 3 no matter how well he shows. If he runs terrible in the drills it could intimate that he really isn't that fast.
Perhaps we can take the physiology conversation (as interesting as it is) to another forum and keep to NFL combine discussions.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Feb 21, 2014 at 12:43 PM ]
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Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by pfizz:
Originally posted by sfout:
wooo.

Also to my point....Google is my friend. Vernon's BFP is 4%.

So I won't discount KB's BFP sustainability just yet. Vernon is a freak and he works out and does yoga multiple times a day to compensate for such a low BFP. IF Benjamin has that same work ethic and dedication he'll be just fine.

Hell him and Vernon could be training buddies.

lol vernon davis is not 4%. 4% bodyfat is extremely vascular, shredded glutes, paper thin skin, etc

this is what 4% body fat looks like
http://www.3dmusclejourney.com/resources/alberto_shredded400.jpg

this is more like 8-10%. vernon barely has any visible abs, still "soft looking", etc.
http://cdnl.complex.com/m.php/CHANNEL_IMAGES/SPORTS/2013/09/the-craziest-tattoos-in-nfl-history/nngmm_vernon_718485.jpg


trust me i work with and train pro bodybuilders.

That first picture is blatantly roids and likely taken with him severely dehydrated. All body types are different and show differently at different BFPs.

Ryan Reynolds. Yes, the actor was at 3% BFP for Blade Trinity. He looked nothing like that top photo. It is all in how you get to that % and what your goal is with your body type. Also if you goal is to just cut weight to get to said BFP or if you are attempting to add 20-25 pounds of muscle while being at such an extremely low BFP.

I'd trust Vernon to not lie about himself when he knows how important his brand is, he's a workout freak as well, does things like this in the gym.

Vernon Davis is a 6'3, 253 lb. tight end with just 4% percent body fat. Coming out of Maryland for the 2006 NFL Draft, Davis ran a 4.38 40-yard dash with a 42-inch vertical leap. He also did 33 reps on the 225 lb. bench press.In high school, Davis ran a 10.7 second 100-meter dash and high jumped 6'5" on the track and field team.

When he got to college, the assistant strength coach bet Davis that he couldn't beat his 425-pound bench press record. Davis not only broke the bench press record at Maryland, but all five others, too. He did a 585-pound squat, a 355-pound power clean, 4.44 seconds in the 40-yard dash and a 38-inch vertical leap, doing this all at 242 lbs. He broke every tight end record as a true freshman.

As a sophomore, Davis broke all six of the records he'd set the year before. Then, as a junior, he broke all of his records again, with a 460-pound bench, 685-pound squat, 355-pound clean, 4.41 40-yard dash and a 40-inch vertical leap at 256 lbs.In the gym, Davis does things like six reps of 405 lbs. on the bench, three reps of 355 lbs. on power cleans and 10 reps of 525 lbs. on squats. He's a true gym rat and workout warrior.

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/the-top-25-most-athletic-freaks-of-all-time-arcl-1124.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/bodyissue2013vernondavis/san-francisco-49ers-tight-end-vernon-davis-buff-2013-body-issue-espn-magazine

Back to issue at hand.....I posted early that we drafted or signed 6 or 7 of the 37 players we met with during last years "draft season". I believe it was a similar ratio in 2012 as well so it'll be interesting to see if we follow that same ratio.


Sorry dude but pfizz is right, his first pic is 4% body fat and Ryan Reynolds was most definitely not 3% bf for Blade Trinity, that figure is on the verge of actually killing yourself.

You need to realise that bodyfat measurements include the non sub-cutaneous fat - e.g. all the fat that cushions your joints, ligaments, organs etc.
Anyone have the numbers on Ellington?
Originally posted by genus49:
Anyone have the numbers on Ellington?

5'9 197
Originally posted by pfizz:
guy is way off. no way he's at 4% bf. pro bodybuilders train for months to come in that ripped for shows and lose it after shows because it's not sustainable. he's somewhere sub 10 but not 4.

When you commonly here these claims of bodyfat, what they don't typically account for is subcutaneous fat, so if you hear 4%, think more along the lines of 7-8% actual bodyfat, which is still pretty damn amazing.



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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Perhaps we can take the physiology conversation to another forum and keep to NFL combine discussions.

Agreed ^_^

Is anything being televised today? I'm not near a TV and can't find anything on nfl.com to indicate that it is on air.
Originally posted by genus49:
Anyone have the numbers on Ellington?


5'9', 197 with 9 5/8" hands.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Perhaps we can take the physiology conversation to another forum and keep to NFL combine discussions.

Agreed ^_^

Is anything being televised today? I'm not near a TV and can't find anything on nfl.com to indicate that it is on air.

Just press conferences. The real stuff starts tomorrow morning.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
5'9', 197 with 9 5/8" hands.

He's got a very solid frame, combine that with his skills as a receiver and having played basketball at a high level, I feel like he can be a very good NFL player.
Originally posted by spizzy:
No shot he's at 4% lol.

but hes the exact size of calvin johnson! Doubt he runs/jumps as well though

I think he'll jump pretty well and I hope he runs well, but yeah he's not going to put up Calvin Johnson numbers. Megatron ran a 4.35 in someone elses shoes, 42.5 inch vert, and a 11'7 broad jump. Just insane numbers.
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