Originally posted by bigwads:
Even if we take everything you just said as true, those points actually go against trading up for him...that is the point. Roby is a 2nd rounder. There are some guys worth trading up for, but he isn't one of them, and he may not even be worth a late 1st rounder. Dennard is the best CB coming out this year by far...after that there is a whole bunch of dudes in the mix for 2nd best CB none of which stir any kind of strong affinity IMO.
Look your entitled to your opinion, But blanket statements like "Roby is a 2nd rounder" are pretty ridiculous at this time of year. Hell he could sky rocket with a good offseason, and he could also fall tremendously. Almost nobody thought Reid was worth trading up for, and look how that turned out. Sure everybody got on board quickly, but pre draft you would be hard pressed to find someone that agreed with that move. Its still so early in the offseason that these guys are gonna shift back and fourth a good amount. Look what happened to Star Lotulelei last draft when most had him as the #1 prospect in the draft at this point last year.
Besides, its kind of pointless for me to get into a discussion about CB's with a guy that quite obviously hates the CB class and doesnt want us to take one early period. Thats all fine and dandy, but doesnt really make for good realistic discussion about the class.
You feel that DL and S are bigger needs and have stated that you feel S is our liability in the secondary, which is fine, I happen to disagree with that. I actually feel that if we can bring back Whitner that the S spots on our defense are the strength of the secondary currently. Whitner and Reid have great chemistry and complement each other very nicely.
Now if like you said, we have Brock, Wright, Culliver and Rogers all back next season, then your right i probably would maybe reconsider a CB in the first, and especially would reconsider 2 so early, but lets get real, thats not happening. Its almost a foreseen conclusion that Rogers will be gone, and there is no telling if we will resign wright or not. That leaves a real thin CB group.
You also stated we need a "True #1 WR" and that you feel crabtree isaint a #1. What in your book qualifies a #1? Yes we need WR help, but that isaint because Crabtree isaint a good WR, its because at the end of the season we will be thin at WR and need to bring in some guys to develop and compliment our core, and to provide insurance in case we cant bring Crabtree back. Its not like WR's with Crabtrees talent just fall out of the sky into your lap. He is a good WR and thats coming from a guy that was his biggest critic for most of his time here.
Like i said i understand that some will agree with my rankings of Roby. Thats fine, people often disagree with some of the prospects im high on, but CB will almost for certain be the biggest need of the off season, followed closely by WR depth.