Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
You really foresee a bidding war for Carr even with all of the other QB prospects available? Is there really that big a divide between Carr and Bortles and Manziel? I don't see it, but I'm not much of a Carr fan. I just don't see it with him. Plus, a lower YPA always scares me with college quarterbacks. It's a pretty good predictor of future success.
RG3 was at 10.7 in his final year. Russell Wilson was at 10.3 in his. Cam Newton was at 10.2.
YPA of some top QB prospects for comparison...
Jameis Winston ('15)... 10.9
Bryce Petty ('15)... 10.8
Zach Mettenberger ('14)... 10.4
Johnny Manziel ('14)... 9.5
Marcus Mariota ('15)... 9.5
Blake Bortles ('14)... 9.3
Tajh Boyd ('14)... 9.3
Teddy Bridgewater ('14)... 9.3
Derek Carr ('14)... Way down the list at 7.7
To me, Carr is a prospect similar to Kap in that he put up a ton of production against inferior competition. However, he lacks the unique physical tools Kap has and is, therefore, not nearly as projectable. The stink-bomb he laid in their bowl game against USC didn't help his case, either.
Wait until Carr begins to throw the ball in workouts. The dude has a serious legit NFL arm, the strongest in this class. Someone is going to fall in love and make that move forward. I am not saying he is going to be a solid NFL quarterback, but scouts will drool when they see him up and close sling the ball.
As for the YPA, part of that is the scheme FSU ran with the mountain of bubble screens, quick outs, etc. I think NFL teams see his arm strength and the ability to gun the ball down the field as a major asset.
As for the note on Clowney, teams may drool over his potential, but tape from 2013 does not lie. I think scouts are looking at tape, mortified that his motor shuts off way too quickly and consistently. The talent level takes a major leap forward in the NFL, and unless you are dedicated to the game, which I am not sure he is, the dominance we see at the lower level will not translate to the NFL. You better be hungry in the trenches, or you simply become mediocre at best.
As for being heavily schemed, that is fairly accurate. The problem is that after the first few games, many teams did not scheme him as heavily as early in the year, and he simply struggled against SEC OT's, even in one-on-one matchups. Three sacks is a pretty sad number for a guy with that level of talent.