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2014 Senior Bowl

Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Jordan Matthews measured in at 6'2 5/8th and 209lbs with a huge wingspan of 80 1/8th.

Also with 10.5 hands, biggest of all WRs.

wow, in comparison;
Cordarrelle Patterson was 6'2'' 216 wingspan of 76.25 and 9'' hands
Keenan Allen 6'2'' 206 76.5 wingspan and 10'' hands
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Jordan Matthews measured in at 6'2 5/8th and 209lbs with a huge wingspan of 80 1/8th.

Also with 10.5 hands, biggest of all WRs.

You know what they say about a man with big hands, don't you?????










Good WR
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and it begins

Along with hundreds of NFL personnel, NFLDraftScout.com was on hand for Monday morning's weigh-ins. Below are five prospects whose impressive physiques created an early positive buzz among scouts. Following that is a list of five players who had better hope their play through the week of practice helps scouts forget about less-than-ideal measurements.

Players are listed alphabetically within each group.

Winners

Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State: At a shade under 6-feet-1 and 216 pounds, Bucannon certainly passed the eyeball test, sporting a muscled-up frame that stood out in comparison to the other safeties in this game. With a 78-inch wingspan, Bucannon also had the widest of any of the safeties measured.

Kadeem Edwards, OL, Tennessee State: Scouts love linemen with long arms and Edwards has the longest of any of the athletes measured Monday at the Senior Bowl, measuring in at 34½ inches. The 6-4 1/8, Edwards also showed good weight distribution with a relatively trim middle at 308 pounds.

Ra'Shede Hagemen, DT, Minnesota: Another highly regarded lineman who showed impressive weight distribution, measuring in at exactly 6-6 and 318 pounds. His arms (33¾ inches) were also among the longest of any of the defensive tackles measured Monday.

Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt: Considering his success in the SEC, perhaps it isn't surprising that Matthews looked the part of a future high NFL pick. Some of the conference's biggest names weren't nearly as well-built as the Commodores' star receiver, who sported a chiseled 6-2 (and 5/8-inch), 209-pound frame, long arms (32 5/8 inches) and big hands (10½ inches).

Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton: One could quickly tell that Reid spent more than his share of time in the weight room rather than just in the library as the Ivy Leaguer showed off a surprisingly well-built frame at 6-2 (and 1/8 inch) and 301 pounds. While perhaps a bit shorter than scouts would like, Reid's impressive frame and adequate arm length (32 5/8 inches) helped the small-schooler stand out amongst FBS stars.

Losers

Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin: Borland has been compared to former Miami Dolphins stud linebacker Zach Thomas for much of his career and his instincts and open-field tackling ability warrant the mention. He looked smaller on stage than his official height (5-11 3/8 inches) and weight (245), however, and tied with former teammate, running back James White, with the shortest arms of any player measured Monday (28 5/8 inches).

Adrian Hubbard, OLB/DE, Alabama: Scouts will be intrigued with Hubbard's length at nearly 6-6 but there was surprisingly little muscular development on his 255-pound frame. For a player coming off a disappointing junior season and yet elected to enter the NFL Draft with a year of collegiate eligibility remaining, it wasn't the best impression to make.

Jalen Saunders, WR, Oklahoma: It is a big man's game and to the surprise of no one, Saunders came in the smallest of any player at this year's Senior Bowl. Saunders came in just under 5-9 (officially 5-8¾) and 164 pounds. He also has small hands (8¾ inches) and short arms (28 7/8 inches).

Telvin Smith, ILB, Florida State: Smith's speed is certain to get him drafted but teams may have to move him outside or perhaps drop him back to safety with a frame that looks packed out at 218 pounds.

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State: Though he was listed at 265 pounds for much of his career with the Sun Devils, scouts knew that Sutton was in fact much bigger. He gained more weight for his senior season and wasn't as effective in 2013, despite the fact that he was rewarded with the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year award. Some of that extra weight was clearly around his middle as Sutton weighed in at 315 pounds at just under 6-1. Worse, his 30 5/8-inch arms were the shortest of any of the defensive tackles measured Monday.



http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24414844/nfl-draft-senior-bowl-weigh-in-winners-and-losers

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2014 Senior Bowl: Position-by-position preview

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24413907/senior-bowl-position-by-position-preview
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2014 Senior Bowl: Player measurements released


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/20/5327616/2014-senior-bowl-player-measurements-released
I woulnd't consider Borland a "loser", I think every draft person knew what his measurements were

Stuff like Sutton's incredibly short arms on the other hand is a surprisingly poor measurement
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2014 Senior Bowl: 10 observations from Monday's South practice

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24415146/senior-bowl-10-observations-from-mondays-south-practice
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Wide Receivers/Tight Ends

-Jordan Matthews of Vanderbilt displayed the softest hands of the South receivers excluding a couple of drops ,which seemed to plague all the receivers in the group. However, he really struggled versus physical coverage and doesn't seem to have the functional strength to fight through this at the NFL level.

-Ryan Grant had the best overall day of the South receivers despite a couple of drops. He consistently separated at the top of his routes and was quick to flip his head to gain yards after the catch.

-Arthur Lynch of Georgia had an impressive showing Monday as he lined up from a variety of spots on the field including the backfield as an H-back receiver. He's a hands catcher with some "snatch and go" receiving ability and made tough grabs in traffic.

Defensive Backs


-Utah cornerback Keith McGill started Senior Bowl week with an impressive Monday as he was one of the standouts from the morning weigh ins and then displayed impressive fluidity in coverage during practice. In press drills against the receivers, he sustains leverage through initial contact and uses his long arms to direct opponents at the line. During the team session, McGill was transitioning through off coverage well and showed impressive click and close ability to throws in front of him. The one surprising area he struggled in was catching the ball, especially considering his 10 ¼ hands.

-Oklahoma's Aaron Colvin was the best cornerback on the field for the South today. He showed cat-quick feet in drills and snapped his hips exceptionally well in off coverage to break on sideline routes. Several scouts raved about his explosiveness out of breaks and his overall athleticism for the position

http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2014-senior-bowl-south-monday-practice-notes.html
Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
wow, in comparison;
Cordarrelle Patterson was 6'2'' 216 wingspan of 76.25 and 9'' hands
Keenan Allen 6'2'' 206 76.5 wingspan and 10'' hands

Not that is matters. but aj Jenkins had huge hands. I guess they should have also done a ball measurement. If they would have, they would have known Jenkins had none.
Originally posted by buck:
and it begins

Along with hundreds of NFL personnel, NFLDraftScout.com was on hand for Monday morning's weigh-ins. Below are five prospects whose impressive physiques created an early positive buzz among scouts. Following that is a list of five players who had better hope their play through the week of practice helps scouts forget about less-than-ideal measurements.

Players are listed alphabetically within each group.

Winners

Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State: At a shade under 6-feet-1 and 216 pounds, Bucannon certainly passed the eyeball test, sporting a muscled-up frame that stood out in comparison to the other safeties in this game. With a 78-inch wingspan, Bucannon also had the widest of any of the safeties measured.

Kadeem Edwards, OL, Tennessee State: Scouts love linemen with long arms and Edwards has the longest of any of the athletes measured Monday at the Senior Bowl, measuring in at 34½ inches. The 6-4 1/8, Edwards also showed good weight distribution with a relatively trim middle at 308 pounds.

Ra'Shede Hagemen, DT, Minnesota: Another highly regarded lineman who showed impressive weight distribution, measuring in at exactly 6-6 and 318 pounds. His arms (33¾ inches) were also among the longest of any of the defensive tackles measured Monday.

Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt: Considering his success in the SEC, perhaps it isn't surprising that Matthews looked the part of a future high NFL pick. Some of the conference's biggest names weren't nearly as well-built as the Commodores' star receiver, who sported a chiseled 6-2 (and 5/8-inch), 209-pound frame, long arms (32 5/8 inches) and big hands (10½ inches).

Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton: One could quickly tell that Reid spent more than his share of time in the weight room rather than just in the library as the Ivy Leaguer showed off a surprisingly well-built frame at 6-2 (and 1/8 inch) and 301 pounds. While perhaps a bit shorter than scouts would like, Reid's impressive frame and adequate arm length (32 5/8 inches) helped the small-schooler stand out amongst FBS stars.

Losers

Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin: Borland has been compared to former Miami Dolphins stud linebacker Zach Thomas for much of his career and his instincts and open-field tackling ability warrant the mention. He looked smaller on stage than his official height (5-11 3/8 inches) and weight (245), however, and tied with former teammate, running back James White, with the shortest arms of any player measured Monday (28 5/8 inches).

Adrian Hubbard, OLB/DE, Alabama: Scouts will be intrigued with Hubbard's length at nearly 6-6 but there was surprisingly little muscular development on his 255-pound frame. For a player coming off a disappointing junior season and yet elected to enter the NFL Draft with a year of collegiate eligibility remaining, it wasn't the best impression to make.

Jalen Saunders, WR, Oklahoma: It is a big man's game and to the surprise of no one, Saunders came in the smallest of any player at this year's Senior Bowl. Saunders came in just under 5-9 (officially 5-8¾) and 164 pounds. He also has small hands (8¾ inches) and short arms (28 7/8 inches).

Telvin Smith, ILB, Florida State: Smith's speed is certain to get him drafted but teams may have to move him outside or perhaps drop him back to safety with a frame that looks packed out at 218 pounds.

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State: Though he was listed at 265 pounds for much of his career with the Sun Devils, scouts knew that Sutton was in fact much bigger. He gained more weight for his senior season and wasn't as effective in 2013, despite the fact that he was rewarded with the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year award. Some of that extra weight was clearly around his middle as Sutton weighed in at 315 pounds at just under 6-1. Worse, his 30 5/8-inch arms were the shortest of any of the defensive tackles measured Monday.



http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24414844/nfl-draft-senior-bowl-weigh-in-winners-and-losers


His size is no secret. His play and workouts will determine where he goes. Everyone knows he is little. Still a baller. We shall see how he does this offseason. Im in the minority with my opinion on him though.
DB Dontae Johnson looked solid to me in drills vs WR's. He has good size but has small hands. He can play CB or possibly even S at the next level. Probably a 3rd round grade for me.

On a side note, Stanley Jean-Baptiste looked very tight in the hips. He has great length but he may have to move to S to have a career in the NFL. He was definitely underwhelming for me.
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wide receivers

WR Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt - Showed perhaps the most polish of all the receivers, easily coachable, desired coaching, played physically, didn't mind mixing things up with the defensive backs. He ran good routes, consistently caught the ball and whenever he faced the top corners, it was great competition.

WR Cody Hoffman, BYU - Struggled horribly today. He couldn't get off jams by much smaller cornerbacks. He was frustrated all day long and the coaching staff really stayed on him throughout the practice. Slow was the key word with Hoffman throughout the day.

WR Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma - Is sudden and stop on the dime quick, but really struggled catching the ball away from his body.

WR Ryan Grant, Tulane - Was one of my players to watch and he didn't disappoint. He had more ups than downs during the day. He snatched the ball out of the air, caught the ball away from his body. He beat DBs down field and can get open. But, he had a couple of lapses in concentration - jumping offsides and then letting a ball go through his hands during one-on-ones.

WR Kevin Norwood, Alabama - Really struggled early in practice against CB in a press coverage drill. He didn't feel comfortable getting off the jam at all. I worried that he would truly struggle badly in one-on-one's but when the DBs backed off, he got open easily, caught the ball cleanly and was

WR Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin - Didn't win the weigh in, weighing in at only 189 pounds, BUT when the former Badger got on the field, he lit up the North team defensive backs. He caught everything, got open against everyone he faced. Everyone. He's fast. He's going to be a star this week as long the North QBs get him the ball.

WR Robert Herron, Wyoming - There's something about a guy that just gets open. All. The. Time. Wyoming slot WR Robert Herron did that all day long. Outside of Abbrederis, Herron was the most impressive receiver for the North squad, even though he measured in only at less than 5'9" and 187 pounds.

defensive backs

CB Aaron Colvin, Oklahoma - Was easily the best cover corner on the South squad. His press technique footwork needs a little work, but his recovery speed is ridiculous. He's fluid, moves smoothly and bends athletically.

CB/S Chris Davis, Auburn - Had an interesting day and I'm struggling with how to classify his day. He's easily the most physical cornerback on the field and he is ultra-physical in press coverage. He frustrated nearly every receiver in press man, including Vanderbilt star WR Jordan Matthews. But, the further he got away from the line of scrimmage, he struggled a bit. He got beat once by Matthews but Davis will compete. He's stiff as can be but I love his tenacity. Ultimately, I think he's got to move to safety but initially I think playing corner will be great experience this week.

CB Keith McGill, Utah - At 6'3" showed incredible agility in press man drills and will be a guy to watch the rest of the week.

CB Walt Aikens, Liberty - Has a great body. Yeah, I said it. But, he didn't look out of place at all. He got beat a few times but he competed hard and as I mentioned to a few scouts "he's moldable clay". He's definitely worth watching over the next few days.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46053/351/senior-bowl-notes-monday
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Defensive Backs
-Deone Buchanan's day was very resembling to what he shows on tape. The Washington State safety showed range in cover 3 looks and was exceptional closing on the ball. His best play came in run support where he made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage after sprinting 15 yards downfield from the opposite hash.

-One of a handful of size/speed corners at the Senior Bowl, Nebraska cornerback Stanley Jean Baptiste had a strong day in both press and off man coverage. He is very physical within 5 yards and snaps his hips quickly to transition to turn and run. He also showed the make up speed and length to make plays on the ball when receivers were able to get behind him.

Wide Receivers

-Oregon's Josh Huff edged Robert Herron as the receiver of the day from the North squad. He ate up cushion quickly and he showed some savvy moves at the line to beat press coverage. He also plays up to his 5'11 200 pound frame running through physicality in his routes and setting up defenders at the top. The highlight of his day came during the team session when he executed an outstanding stop-and-go route against NC State CB Dontae Johnson, who completely bit and left Huff wide open behind him.

-Wyoming speedster wideout Robert Herron impressed with his all around explosiveness and ability to separate from defenders. He's a guy that defensive backs will have trouble running with if they don't get their hands on him when hip to hip. In person he has a lot of similar qualities to Oregon State's Brandin Cooks when looking at size and how he gets open. If Herron can win underneath on a consistent basis this week, look for him to get more attention from NFL teams.

http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2014-senior-bowl-north-monday-practice-notes.html
Ahh time for the draft. Does the zone have a love child yet for this draft??
Buck is the man!!!

Thanks for the updates